From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG9904B" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:43:59 EDT Reply-To: Aerm1@aol.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Dean's movies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/6/99 2:51:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, smodolo@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << So probably next week, I plan to go to Blockbuster Video and rent them and watch them when my kids are in school. >> Just don't start to watch Best Men if you're going to have to stop in the middle. I turned it on for a few minutes, planning to stop and finish it tomorrow and now it is 2:40 am and just finished. Couldn't stop watching. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:16:08 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: [LOVE ME TENDER] In-Reply-To: <19990407182937.5418.qmail@nw171.netaddress.usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I have to add to the comments and praise which have been flooding in since this RR was posted. I've really been enjoying the RR team's 'Season 5' - which is not surprising since some of my favourite writers are involved in these stories. But they just get better! 'A World Without a Superman' was excellent; 'Hickory Myxery Dock' hilarious; and as for 'Three Capes to the Wind'... words fail me. This story, like the others in the series, made me gasp at the writers' audacity and inventiveness, laugh at the wonderful humour, and smile when the characters I love were portrayed in the way *I* like to see them. Keep it up, all of you - your fans are holding their breath for more! Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:50:56 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Eileen Barnard Subject: Re: [LOVE ME TENDER] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone! I have to put in my say here and agree that your story was very funny. I actually read it in work today and some of my colleagues asked what I was laughing about. They just don't understand my Superman obsession and take the rise out of me (no pun intended here) constantly with my Superman mug and big S key ring. They all have much more suspect obsessions (I work with mostly guys so you can guess what they are!) Thanks again for bringing us another gem. Much regards Eileen B eileen@barnard70.freeserve.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:59:18 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Dennis A Arendt Subject: Re: LOVE ME TENDER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just read "Love me Tender" and I thought it was funny. I guess I laughed out loud because the next thing I knew, my husband was reading it and laughing and this is the first fanfic he has ever read. Brenda ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:22:45 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: LOVE ME TENDER In-Reply-To: <040899160322.1@hrcs4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A few people commented on their favorite parts, so I had to add mine. >Klein looked up as they stepped out into the cool air. "I'm glad it's you >two," he said, as he picked at the contents of his plate. "I've almost been >expecting that neighbor woman from 'Bewitched' to see you floating and start >screaming 'Abner! Abner!'" This part had me laughing ... >Klein smiled and leaned against the railing as the couple floated and spun >above him, the stars as their backdrop. Even the horrible band couldn't ruin >the moment. It was perfect, or would have been, had Ellen not suddenly >stepped onto the balcony. > >"Abner!" Klein shouted, and then dropped his plate over the ledge. And then this part had me about falling out of my seat! ROTFLMAO!!! My ribs still hurt!! Oh, man, I thought the first reference was hysterical, but when you dropped the second punchline ... I was a goner! Oh, and the scene with Martha and Jon in the buffet line, with Jon loading up his plate and Martha secretly emptying it ... that was inspired, especially when Jon looked at his plate and said "Martha!" Now that was a scene that would have translated very well to the tv screen. Great job! As always, another fine effort by the RR crew. :) Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:38:57 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Raymond, Melody" Subject: Feedback on Fanfiction Comments: To: listserv-Indiana posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BE8208.36A2C01C" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BE8208.36A2C01C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Everyone, This is a combined feedback. I have been reading a lot of fanfiction lately and wanted to give the authors some feedback, but don't have the time to individually email everyone. I most recently finished reading Love Me Tender. I was ROTFL it was so funny. All you round-robin'ers keep up the good work. You bring me a lot of pleasure. I am very much interested in the continuing round robin saga, its sort of like a 5th season. Cristin - I wanted to comment on your story about Clark writing a last article for the Daily Planet on his death bed. You had me in tears it was so sad, but I loved it. I just have one problem with it and that is the story seems to assume that Lois & Clark did not have any children. This would not be consistent with the series, since Mr. Wells assured them that their descendents would bring in a Utopia. Little Man Super was a really good story, but I can't remember what the author's name was, but I remember it is a continuation of other stories, which I also enjoyed. Jenni - Suffer the Little Children was fantastic as were the other stories in your triology. I really liked Mrs. Wicca. The story makes you think she is a witch, but I would guess that she was Jonny's guardian angel. She protected him from the bullet by placing the gold coin in his pack. I want all the authors to know that I really enjoy reading the continuing saga's of Lois & Clark. I especially enjoy these stories that continue their lives & careers and their children's lives. I want to encourage you all to keep on writing, I love reading them. 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Like everyone else I thought this story was so funny but charming too. All th= e characters seemed so true to the series and I could see everything in pictures. You guys seem to get better and better with every story. Can't wait for the next one. Yours Jenni Debbage ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:49:57 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Andrea Englert Subject: Re: Scripts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain try http://ScriptShop.com/ I've never looked for stuff there for L&C, but they have a whole bunch of stuff! >From: Desert Rat >Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" >To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU >Subject: Scripts >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:06:05 -0700 > >Is there a site out there where I can find full scripts from L&C? I >know there are sites for other shows, but I would be interested in >finding some for our favorite show. If anyone has an idea, I would be >grateful. >Thanks _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:27:01 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Elisabeth Subject: Re: Scripts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Andrea Englert wrote: > try http://ScriptShop.com/ I've never looked for > stuff there for L&C, > but they have a whole bunch of stuff! > >Is there a site out there where I can find full > scripts from L&C? I > >know there are sites for other shows, but I would > be interested in > >finding some for our favorite show. If anyone has > an idea, I would > be > >grateful. > >Thanks Sorry. They have a lot of stuff, but I didn't find anything for L&C. === Elisabeth Feel free to visit my home at http://geocities.com/Area51/Starship/7859 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:51:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: Feedback on Fanfiction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Raymond, Melody" wrote: > Little Man Super was a really good story, but I can't remember what the > author's name was, but I remember it is a continuation of other stories, > which I also enjoyed. The author thanks you. I think her name's Mandy. > Jenni - Suffer the Little Children was fantastic as were the other stories > in your triology. I really liked Mrs. Wicca. The story makes you think she > is a witch, but I would guess that she was Jonny's guardian angel. She > protected him from the bullet by placing the gold coin in his pack. Yes, Jenni, wonderful character, beautifully realized. Couldn't have written a better one myself. Sandy smcdermin@erols.com http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ > > I want all the authors to know that I really enjoy reading the continuing > saga's of Lois & Clark. I especially enjoy these stories that continue > their lives & careers and their children's lives. I want to encourage you > all to keep on writing, I love reading them. > > Melody > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Part 1.2 Type: application/ms-tnef > Encoding: base64 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:16:34 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gillian B Tanz Subject: Re: Dean movies and OKI Fest Hey Eileen- Sorry if I/we gave anything away- should've put the spoiler notice at the top :) Funny, I'm usually so good about remembering that. So anyway, I think it's ok to discuss Dean's movies, even plot stuff, as long as there's a spoiler warning in the beginning- right FoLCs? ;-) -Jill aka AlienDove- Still reeling from those black briefs ;-) Yow! AlienDove@juno.com my webpage: http://members.tripod.com/~AlienDove/index.html The truth is nobody knows how long they've got. Anyway, it's not years that count, it's the moments. Right now, as they happen." - Clark Kent in "Brutal Youth"~~**~~ "You still my girl?" "Always." - Angel to Buffy in "Enemies." On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:29:33 -0700 Eileen Barnard writes: >Hello Everybody > >Could I ask you all please please not to give away any of the plot >lines >>from any of the Dean Cain Movies that are currently available on >video. > >I have recently purchased Best Men and am planning to rent the others >from >the video shop but I haven't had a chance to see them yet and I would >rather >not know what is going to happen. > >Sorry to be so picky but I hate to know 'anything' about a film I >haven't >had a chance to see yet. I even try to avoid trailers if I can. > >Thanks a bunch >Regards >Eileen B >-----Original Message----- >From: Gillian B Tanz >To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU > >Date: 04 April 1999 12:27 >Subject: Re: Dean movies and OKI Fest > > >><>near the very beginning, when they are talking about >>the fact that he is carrying guns, one of the guys >>says "I didn't know you were packing" (or something)? >>Dean replies "Could you say that a little louder?" My >>friend and I looked at each other and simultaneously >>said "I don't think they heard you in Gotham City." I >>guess the point of my story is that even in other >>acting jobs, Dean will never escape Clark in my mind.>> >> >>YES! I thought that exact same thing when I saw that scene! He made >all >>the same facial expressions, same tone of voice- everything! I said >the >>rest of the line with him, except I said it w/ the Gotham City part, >and >>my brother thought I was nuts. But yeah, it was SO Clark :) >>-Jill aka AlienDove- >>AlienDove@juno.com >>my webpage: http://members.tripod.com/~AlienDove/index.html >>The truth is nobody knows how long they've got. Anyway, it's not >years >>that count, it's the moments. Right now, as they happen." - Clark >Kent >>in "Brutal Youth"~~**~~ "You still my girl?" "Always." - Angel to >Buffy >>in "Enemies." >> > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:45:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Maggie Subject: Re: Feedback on Fanfiction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LOL! Sandy! Uhm, Fanfic Addict make use of the voluminous amounts of FanFiction trivia stored in her brain to note: Sandy wrote Little Man, Super *and* Mrs. Wicca is from that story. (which I have yet to read, but I can't wait!) I think this counts as a fanfic blooper ;o) In other news...... I read Love Me Tender today at lunch. Which was just as delightful as everyone has mentioned. If there is one thing about FoLCs, it's that we have *excellent* taste As I was reading one of the comments, I started wondering and just have to ask, how do you guys organize your thinking for the RR's? I have enjoyed the many I have attended, as a spectator, but reading this one now, as a story separate from the experience of being there, I just can't help but be in awe that you come up with such witty banter, interesting plots, and not only a coherent story, but a *delightful* experience. So, my question (and I do have one!) is, how do you do it? I know the general plot is set before hand. but how do you decide for example to switch >from one scene to another? The stories just seem so, (pardon my Spock ) *logical* that it's hard to conceptualize in my brain that you just wrote it, on the spot, as is. Voila! I know that's what you do, there is a *great* view from the Peanut Gallery after all -- but I would love any insight you can share on the creative process of that type of writing. Maggie who would be an Ace at Fanfiction Jeopardy should such a thing exist maggie13@bellsouth.net (aka supermags on IRC) There are no short cuts to any place worth going. Anonymous ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:06:20 EDT Reply-To: MsLoisette@aol.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Dean movies and OKI Fest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-04-08 22:17:13 EDT, you write: << -Jill aka AlienDove- Still reeling from those black briefs ;-) Yow! >> Tell me about it!!! WOW!!! ;) Is it hot in here or what? Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:55:13 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Becky Bain Subject: New Krypton arc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I need a bit of help for a fanfic I'm working on... since I don't trust my memory! Was it 1996 when Clark left for New Krypton? And '93 when the series started? Thanks. Becky My candle burns at both ends; It will not last the night; But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends - It gives a lovely light! - Edna St. Vincent Millay rbain@uswest.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:12:13 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: New Krypton arc In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.16.19990407120548.2337e124@mail.clsp.uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 1:55 AM -0500 4/9/99, Becky Bain wrote: >I need a bit of help for a fanfic I'm working on... since I don't trust my >memory! Was it 1996 when Clark left for New Krypton? And '93 when the >series started? Yup. May 1993 was when the Pilot took place (not Sept 1996 when the show aired), and fall of 1996 when Clark went to NK. You have to do some jockeying with the NK stuff since there were 3 months between BGDF and LOTF even though in the show the whole arc happened in like a week. But since we know the wedding date was October 6, 1996, and we can assume from the end of BE that they didn't "plan or wait" :), then we need to push TAGD/BGDF forward in time to the fall, rather than pushing LOTF/BE backwards into the summer. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:51:48 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: NKWolke Subject: Re: Dean's CA accent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hi Folcs :-) Oh dear, that's a really difficult request you have for me here, Jill! I wrote: >>>I always say that if someone called me pretending he was Dean Cain, I would let him say "Because the fox is on the loose" and I would instantly know if that someone was an imposter or the real guy . I'm sure nobody else could pronnounce "because", "fox" and "loose" like that!<<< and Jill answered: >>> Nicole- I was wondering if you could write out (phoenetically) how you would expect Dean to say "because the fox is on the loose". Like some other FoLCs, I never much noticed Dean's accent, and for some reason I can't hear in my head how it would sound if he said that phrase. Guess you've just got me curious now ;-)<<< I can't write phonetically but I can try to describe what I mean. Let me first say though, that I have no idea if it is and "accent-thing" or just *Dean* . Actually I would be disappointed if it was just an specific accent, because then my wonderful theory about being able to discover Dean-imposters would be worth nothing! Okay, here it goes. Let's start with his pronnounciation of certain vowels (I don' even know if that's the right word for it... I mean "a" "o" "u" etc.) I learned in school to pronnounce the "au" in "because" like the "au" in "Claude". Dean's "because" though is totally different. The "cause" sounds more like "us" only a little bit longer. His pronnounciation of "The Fox" is even harder to describe. It's a vowel we don't have here in Germany and it's neither an "o" nor an "u". It's somewhere in between. The most typical thing in his pronnounciation isn't his usage of vowels though, but his consonants. He doesn't use hard consonants at all and he takes his time especially for the smooth consonants. The "s" in "because" the "f" and the "x" in "the fox" and the finally the "s" in "loose" sound extremely smooth and they all slur together a little bit. Furthermore he has this "melody" in his sentences (You know in the sentence "because the fox is on the loose" it's like ta-da-da-*dam* ta-da-da-*dam* ) all the time, it all sounds very smooth and melodic. It's very different from Perry's talking for example he has much more growling in his pronnounciation, every word sounds if there was an "r" in it. And the "melody" is very different, too. His speech-melody sounds more like a galloping horse all the time, you know like ta-*dam* ta-*dam* ta-*dam*. BTW speaking of accents. Does anybody know where the actor who played Bill Church senior (I can't remember the name right now) comes from? He doesn't sound american to me, he more sounds like my husband trying to speak english , with his chopped talking. One exmple that comes to my mind is his sentence "Son, it's so good to see you". Night and day from Dean's way to talk!! Okay, hope this helped :) take care Nicole (just to think of Dean slurring the words together makes me drool ) AKA CKgroupie on IRC NKWolke@t-online.de ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:35:33 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Subject: Re: Sequels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Posting for Piper since she hasn't been able to get through this week. (She is on this list, but she's posted this twice and it has yet to show up.) >I've been lurking on this list for quite some time and I'm not even sure >this is going to get through, but I saw the exchange below and I remembered >something about the original story (which while I loved it, it broke my >heart to find Lois didn't wait for Clark). I seem to remember that Piper >wrote that "she wasn't going to write the obvious sequel". I took that to >mean she wasn't going to write a sequel at all, and was kind of throwing it >open to someone else to do so. I just realized that it could also mean, that >she wasn't going to write the OBVIOUS sequel, but that one that would not be >so obvious was in the works. Either way, I felt that the original story did >not deserve to be left as it was and that a sequel was needed to "finish" >it. (Aside to Piper: I liked Dale too, but I can't ever be happy with Lois >without Clark, sorry.) > >Ray Reynolds Thanks for the kind words about my story, Ray. Glad you liked it, even though it broke your heart. One thing I need to clear up, though. When I said that I would not be writing the *obvious* sequel (Clark comes back, Lois somehow gets back with Clark, all's right with the world)I meant that I considered the story finished. I didn't WANT to end the story the very same way that every other story about the NK arc ended. Sometimes, things don't turn out the way we plan. In my eyes, Lois never considered Dale just a substitute for Clark. Though she would always love Clark, and never forget him, she was in love with Dale now. I think that Lois is too strong to ever *settle*. And Dale is too strong to ever be *settled for* in a relationship. At least, that's the way it is in the universe I created for this story. If you think (as every other person on this list seems to) that there is no circumstance in which CK and Lois would not end up together (geez, Piper, double negative much?) well, more power to you. Go forth and write that story. But please, just because you don't agree with mine, don't feel obligated to *finish* my story to correct the ending. If you had seen some of the early drafts and toss-off scenes that Peace and I considered when we were struggling with Healing, you'd realize that I think that sometimes the better choice for a story is not the easiest or most popular. Some of the ideas we considered would make the final version of Healing read like a Sunday School tract. And no, I'm not referring to the nfic parts . Stepping off my soapbox now, Piper ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:24:05 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Reynolds, Raymond H." Subject: Feedback: Counting the Ways MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just read this vignette by Christine Carr and since I didn't find an e-mail address in it I thought I'd respond to the list and hope Christine sees this. Please be aware that I have a tendency to be very specific in my feedback and this will probably be considered a spoiler so if you haven't read this yet you may not want to read my comments. Dear Christine, I think you captured the essence of Clark's feelings at that particular moment. The expression of unconditional love that Clark has for Lois was very well done. You followed his memories of Lois from their meeting, to friendship, to dating, the first proposal, and finally Lois' proposal, with all the missteps in between with such tenderness. I was very touched. Clark's obvious sense of awe and wonder that this woman, who was berating a source and admiring her ring at the same time, was finally his fiancee was portrayed as only a fanfic author can. Being able to get inside Clark's mind and read his thoughts gives us a view of this event that we could never get >from television. The ending was also very poignant, Clark's realization and acceptance that Lois, who was mad at him for lying to her about Superman, would, in turn, lie for him as Superman, was another side of her character that he loved but would probably never be able to understand. Just like the woman herself. In your closing comments you mention a companion piece to be written from Lois' point of view. I hope you will give it a shot. It seems that most writers have the Clark point of view down pretty well, but Lois is much more difficult. I would think that based on this story I think you would be able to accomplish this quite well, but then I'm prejudiced, I just want more fanfic to read! Thanks very much for the story, Sincerely, Ray ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:32:57 EDT Reply-To: ChoirGirl2@aol.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "K.M. de Castro" Subject: Re: Pregnancy Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathy B. wrote: < >> Does anyone know when Teri started to show when she was expecting her daughter? Did we (any where on the TV screen) ever catch a glimpse of her in her waiting-to-be-a-mommy state? Maybe if you knew the answer to that question, it would add a bit of structure to your story. Just a thought, Marie ChoirGirl2@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:21:51 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sue Modolo Subject: Christians on List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain A lot of you guys remember I asked if there were any Christians on the list. Well, about 25-30 emailed me privately. I was hoping to set up a onelist.com list for Christian FoLC this week. Unfortunately, hotmail decided to set up cookies for its website so I have been moving all my email over to apexmail and also onelist seems to be down the last day or so. So as soon as I get everything straightened away, prob the first of the week, we can get started on this new mailing list. Anyone else who wants to join, please send me a private email at smodolo@apexmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:37:23 EDT Reply-To: Zoomway@aol.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: A thank you and Feedback on Love Me Tender MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/8/99 9:36:27 PM Central Daylight Time, maggie13@BELLSOUTH.NET writes: << As I was reading one of the comments, I started wondering and just have to ask, how do you guys organize your thinking for the RR's? I have enjoyed the many I have attended, as a spectator, but reading this one now, as a story separate from the experience of being there, I just can't help but be in awe that you come up with such witty banter, interesting plots, and not only a coherent story, but a *delightful* experience. >> First the thank you, and that's to *all* of you who had such kind comments about Love Me Tender. I found some of my fellow round robinites on the IRC last night, and for a group of people who get together and write live on a channel, you'd be surprised how tongue-tied you made them ;) Anyway, here is what some of them said (isn't it appropriate that you get "thanks" in a round robin format from them? ;) One thing I would like to say is that I'm honored to be able to write with all you great writers :) BTW, thanks for all the nice comments :) I almost fell over when someone picked out one of my lines as a fav. Never thought I'd see that day. Extend my thanks as well Zoom ;) * Misha just hides behind the other writers. I'd just like to echo what everybody else said, that hearing that the story rang true to the show is the highest compliment and I'm proud to help out Peanut Gallery Comment: You aint seen nothing unless you watch it all unfold I'm sorry I couldn't get them all corralled, but I got some of them, but believe me, we're all flattered. Oh, and I wanted to say a word on the "5th season". It was totally unintentional that it turned into a "season" at all That wasn't planned, but I think it started with a Halloween costume party story (Eileen, help me out here ;), and that led to a conga line of holidays in a row (Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years) and we felt that it would be fun to keep the Klein/Friskin romance in the story continuity and with Lois getting pregnant, well, we couldn't have her not pregnant in the next. That would be worse than when her apartment kept changing floors Anyway, that's the explanation of how it turned into a "season". >>>So, my question (and I do have one!) is, how do you do it? I know the general plot is set before hand. but how do you decide for example to switch >from one scene to another?<<< On Wednesday night we meet on #l&cficorg (anyone is welcome to join in ;) and try and come up with a premise for a story. We really don't map it out much more than that. Also, sometimes the suggestion comes from someone who doesn't write but has a good idea that they think might make a fun story. Only something like the SoulMates Chronicles needed a lot more preplanning because they dealt with specific eras in time. Typically though, we just agree on a premise and then meet Saturday to try and make it work, and we're always happy to have anyone new join in and try their hand at round robin writing. As to knowing when to "switch" in the story to different scenes, believe it or not that's almost always arbitrary. Just at the whim of the writer. I think it also deals with what each individual writer likes most to write. I like writing dialog, for example, and I especially like it when it can be in a humorous story. If I can do a scene change to accommodate that, I will, or Eileen and Misha who are great at getting the main plot on track, might add a row of asterisks indicating a scene change/time lapse that segues back to the main plot line and so on. That might sound haphazard, but for some reason it works. Lastly, as to why/how it turns out "logical" as you put it, that's due almost entirely to Georgia, our editor That's because she doesn't just function as the editor, she watches the pacing of the story as it unfolds and will sometimes suggest it's time to "get back to the main plot" or "make a reference to the time of day so we know where we are" and that helps immensely in keeping the story coherent. It's very easy sometimes to get lost in a story that's done live because everything eventually just scrolls away, and so having a ringmaster to get us through the right hoops, is invaluable ;) Anyway, it's always nice when someone takes the time to make a comment on a story and so, as I told someone in another e-mail, I wanted to take the time to thank you for doing so. Zoomway@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:08:20 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Off Topic: Article in USA Today MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Heard about the following article which appeared in USA Today ... today, and thought I might pass it along. Obviously, it doesn't have a direct connection to L&C fanfic, but some of the comments bring back "fond" memories all the same. Also, oddly enough, I think the article has some relevance to recent discussions I've noticed between writers of fanfic and their responses to criticism -- whether to say, "this is the way I decided to tell the story and I'm not changing it" or to say, "hmmm, maybe if enough people feel unhappy with something, I ought to consider reworking some scenes." I'm in the first camp. (Note the John Romano comment about "following your muse.") However, I'm all for criticism. For me, readers comments -- good or bad -- always had a greater impact on my thinking for the next story rather than the one I had just written. And, it was always a positive impact. Sandy ************************* Television's Net Worth By Kevin V. Johnson, USA TODAY After hearing recently that Felicity's romantic darlings, Felicity and Noel, might break up, Staci Almquist, a 22-year-old New Jersey computer consultant, was so upset that she pleaded to members of an Internet fan group for the WB show: "OK, I just want to know ONE thing: Where can I get the address for the writers of Felicity so that I can tell them HOW UNHAPPY I AM!!!!!!!!!" No need. J.J. Abrams, co-creator of the college drama, already knows. He's one of a handful of savvy TV producers and network programmers who have found that valuable feedback about their shows is just a mouse click away. Abrams has been monitoring Internet reaction to the show for months. The latest response is what he expected. "Horror," he says. "Some people said, 'If they do that, I'm never going to watch again.' But others said, 'It's about time they shook up that relationship.'" (Viewers learn what happens in the April 20 episode of the show that airs Tuesdays at 9 p.m. ET/PT.) Once feared as a threat by the TV industry, the Internet is now mined for the wealth of opinions — from uninhibited gut reactions to elaborate theories — offered in dozens of discussion groups. It's impossible to know how many there are: Some are connected officially to the shows, but many — sometimes several per series — are started and maintained by fans, who communicate via e-mail or Internet bulletin boards. "It's great to have this volume of input," says John Romano, an executive producer of the young-skewing Fox drama Party of Five who regularly monitors online chatter. "It's like what we used to call 'water cooler talk,'" impassioned office discussion that reveals what viewers are responding to. The near instantaneous reaction to plot developments, new characters and other changes is invaluable in determining how effectively a show gets its points across. And the back-and-forth "conversations" offer far more detail than simple ratings and polls. "It's like having free focus groups," says Syracuse University professor Robert Thompson, director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television. (Note to the producers of ABC's new Seinfeld-esque sitcom It's like, you know . . .: Online fans of NBC's Friends would love to hear Jennifer Grey refer to the time she guest-starred as Mindy, the girl engaged to the evil orthodontist in the sitcom's first season.) Romano and his writers pore over online reaction every Thursday morning, after Party of Five airs Wednesday night. "The Internet fans are among our favorites," he says, "because they're the most intensely involved. They tend to be very alive to what's happening." Some network executives are beginning to use the Net to measure fan reaction, too. When the sitcom Will & Grace premiered last fall, NBC vice president David Nevins, who oversees the network's prime-time series, monitored chat rooms for several weeks to see whether viewers were offended by the fact that Will is gay. They weren't. "I also wanted to see which characters people were writing about," he says. (Answer: supporting players Jack [Sean Hayes] and Karen [Megan Mullally]) Networks also are starting to track e-mail they receive from fans. Fox passes along several hundred messages to series producers each week. Next month, summaries of electronic mail to CBS' Web site will be added to the biweekly reports on letters and phone calls already sent to the network's programming department. It's impossible to say with certainty which shows will catch on, Web-wise. ABC's Dharma & Greg, about a mismatched but madly in love husband and wife, doesn't generate much talk. NBC's 3rd Rock From the Sun, a slapstick series about alien life on Earth, has at least two discussion groups that recently contained a combined total of three messages. CBS' Diagnosis Murder, a light drama that attracts older audiences, barely generates a cyberchat murmur. Other series — such as NBC's Friends and ER, and CBS' Touched by an Angel — generate traffic that is active but small when considered as a percentage of those shows' huge viewer numbers. But groups for other shows fairly hum with conversation, in the form of daily messages and replies posted back and forth. Obviously, series that appeal to people whose ages and genders — college students and males, for instance — make them more likely to be Net-literate are also more likely to generate activity. So are shows with intricate plots or soap opera-style relationships, such as the cops-and-crime drama Homicide: Life on the Street, the sci-fi series The X-Files or the college drama Felicity. Syracuse's Thompson explains it this way: Shows that "create a lifestyle that invites people to get into their world" are more likely to be Internet hits, he says. "Shake a Frasier episode really hard, and nothing much comes out of it. It's never more than a very good sitcom." Seinfeld, on the other hand, with its own vocabulary, quirky characters and cult objects such as Junior Mints, Superman and Tweety Pez, was a perfect candidate for Internet obsessing. In fact, Members of the "Vandelay Industries" e-mail group (named for one of the show's inside jokes) still track the career moves of stars and bit players from the show. A handful are even plan a New York City get-together. Drawbacks to immediacy But not everyone considers unadulterated fan chatter valuable. Jeffrey Kramer, co-executive producer of Fox's legal comedy Ally McBeal, a Net favorite, stiffens at the idea of heeding paying attention to such comments. "We don't follow that," he says flatly. "You cannot sway to the winds of opinion." Rene Balcer, executive producer of the NBC crime drama Law & Order, says is show's Internet discussion gets the same attention as any other fan comments. And Tom Fontana, producer of NBC's Homicide, which has a Web site with a secondary story line that sometimes dovetails with the TV plot, says in an interview posted there (at www.homicide.com) that he finds Internet chat about Homicide insulting. "I almost want to get on and say, 'If you can do better, come on over here!' " he says. Not without reason: This season, disapproving online fans have scornfully derisively referred to Detective Sheppard, a new character played by Michael. Michele, as "Detective Sheepdog." And they regularly deride romantically entangled detectives Falsone. (Jon Seda) and Ballard (Callie Thorne) as the "Dullzone Twins." But, good or bad, says Fox corporate spokesman Tom Tyrer, you can't beat the immediacy of the Net. "Within moments, people communicate their feelings." That can be very useful, either for a producer developing a character or a writer trying to entangle viewers in a plot line. Joss Whedon, creator of WB's high school-set drama Buffy the Vampire Slayer, for instance, says he recently made Xander (Nicholas Brendon), a sometime comic foil on the show, "lighter" after scanning online conversations that indicated viewers were starting to take the character more seriously than was intended. And X-Files executive producer Frank Spotnitz says that after every episode explaining a key element of the sci-fi show's murky "mythology," "I log on and see if people are totally lost, or just lost in the way we want them to be lost." More often than not, Felicity's Abrams says admiringly, Internet fans not only understand what is happening, but also figure out what is going to happen next. That's not always good. Romano points to an embryonic Party of Five story line that is indicating a possible romance between the characters Charlie (Matthew Fox) and Kirsten (Paula Devicq), who were once engaged. Some Internet fans, he says, "are already seeing signs in the distance that they'll get married." And in another story line, he says, Julia Salinger (Neve Campbell) is trying to extricate herself from the abusive relationship she got involved in after splitting up with her husband, Griffin. "Every time Ned (her boyfriend, played by Scott Bairstow) hits her, the Internet is alive with people saying, 'Why doesn't she just leave him?' But that may be exactly the kind of exquisite anguish" the writers want to trigger in empathetic fans, he says. Net's power to persuade Net fans who hope to influence eavesdropping producers with their comments are occasionally rewarded, however. When Jack, the elusive serial killer on NBC's Profiler, was caught and thrown in jail last fall, many online fans noticed that he looked different from the uncredited actor (Dennis Christopher) — shown only in close-ups on parts of his face — who had played Jack since the series began in 1996. He did: It was a new actor, Mark Rolston. So, even though it was not planned, says NBC's Nevins, "we started speculating, 'What if the Jack they threw in jail isn't the real one?' " That led to a new plot line that will reach its denouement in May. So far, viewers know that the real Jack is still at large, but the show's other characters don't. Such a direct link between a show and its cyberchat is rare, though. Most producers, like The X-Files' Spotnitz, say that "it would be a huge mistake" to write for the Net audience. Their opinions, he says, though helpful, are those of a "small and unrepresentative" segment of total viewers. In addition, says Romano, "it's important that there's a part of you that's insulated from your audience. You should be listening to your own muse. The fans are not your collaborators. They're your best critics." And fans "should trust that we're not going to do something that's wrong for the character," Abrams says. Still, he admits, "If 90% said that something we had done was a huge mistake, it would be ludicrous to say we're not going to take that into account." But even overwhelming fan disapproval isn't a fail-safe indicator. Spotnitz remembers an X-Files episode that aired several years ago, called Paper Clip, in which Agent Mulder finds evidence suggesting that his sister was abducted in his place. It was one of the shows he was proudest of, Spotnitz says, but at the time "it was trashed" by critical Net fans. Now, he says, Internet fans at America Online and other Web sites regularly rank Paper Clip on their lists of the top 10 X-Files episodes of all time. Why? "Honestly," Spotnitz says, "I don't think it was as negatively received as it seemed. It's the culture of the Internet to lodge objections when shows first air." Over time, he says, if shows are good, "those objections fall away." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:40:10 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: ninety-six and i planted poppies Subject: Re: Off Topic: Article in USA Today Thanks, Sandy, for posting that article about internet fandom. I thought one particular part was interesting-- << Obviously, series that appeal to people whose ages and genders $ college students and males, for instance $ make them more likely to be Net-literate are also more likely to generate activity. >> I think this statement makes sense since the media tells us that the internet is dominated by people who are young and male, perhaps to different degrees. However, loiscla and this list don't follow this trend at all. The vast majority of Lois and Clark fans, especially fanfic authors, are female. And, even though I'd guess the average age of this list is younger than the average age of TV viewers, or even the population as a whole. However, I'm a college student and don't feel at all among the majority here; it seems like there's a strong L&C fan base among late 20s to 40-something women. Wonder why there's a disparity between our fandom and others... -Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:02:48 -0700 Reply-To: desertrat@uswest.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Desert Rat Organization: Desert Rat Computer Services Subject: Re: Off Topic: Article in USA Today MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would just like to say Hi everyone, and put in a plug for us male fans. I would also like to thank the folks who are taking the time to read my fanfic and I can't wait to read your comments. If it passes muster I hope to have it posted by Sunday. Have a great weekend everyone!! ninety-six and i planted poppies wrote: > Thanks, Sandy, for posting that article about internet fandom. I thought one > particular part was interesting-- > > << Obviously, series that appeal to people whose ages and genders $ college > students and males, for instance $ make them more likely to be Net-literate are > also more likely to generate activity. >> > > I think this statement makes sense since the media tells us that the internet > is dominated by people who are young and male, perhaps to different degrees. > However, loiscla and this list don't follow this trend at all. The vast > majority of Lois and Clark fans, especially fanfic authors, are female. And, > even though I'd guess the average age of this list is younger than the average > age of TV viewers, or even the population as a whole. However, I'm a college > student and don't feel at all among the majority here; it seems like there's a > strong L&C fan base among late 20s to 40-something women. Wonder why there's a > disparity between our fandom and others... > > -Christy > kubitc@kenyon.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:51:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Becky Bain Subject: New Krypton Arc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Kathy said: >Yup. May 1993 was when the Pilot took place (not Sept 1996 when the show >aired), and fall of 1996 when Clark went to NK. Thanks. I thought so, but I wanted to be sure. >You have to do some jockeying with the NK stuff since there were 3 months >between BGDF and LOTF even though in the show the whole arc happened in >like a week. But since we know the wedding date was October 6, 1996, and >we can assume from the end of BE that they didn't "plan or wait" :), then >we need to push TAGD/BGDF forward in time to the fall, rather than pushing >LOTF/BE backwards into the summer. Luckily, I only need the year as a jumping off point. But thanks! Becky My candle burns at both ends; It will not last the night; But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends - It gives a lovely light! - Edna St. Vincent Millay rbain@uswest.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:59:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Pregnancy Questions In-Reply-To: <61638f86.243f6999@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:32 AM -0400 4/9/99, K.M. de Castro wrote: >Does anyone know when Teri started to show when she was expecting her >daughter? They were done filming the show when Teri was about 2 months along, before she showed. She was 3 months when doing "Tomorrow Never Dies" (the James Bond movie) and she said that they had to make her one of her costumes in two sizes. She flmed most of her scenes when she was 3 months along and not showing, but then she had to come back and do some background shots later on. They just made the exact same dress in a larger size so it wouldn't be obvious she was pregnant. She gave this information in an interview. On Leno maybe? Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:41:51 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Ruth Link-Gelles Subject: Re: Pregnancy Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain She gave this information in an interview. On >Leno maybe? > >Kathy I was just wondering if anyone knew how many times Teri Hatcher has been on Leno. I've seen her twice, once for Tomorrow Never Dies and once for Cabaret (Thursday night). And also has Dean Cain ever been on Leno? Ruth ruthlg@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:06:34 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Elisabeth Subject: Re: New Krypton arc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Becky Bain wrote: > I need a bit of help for a fanfic I'm working on... > since I don't trust my > memory! Was it 1996 when Clark left for New > Krypton? And '93 when the > series started? > > Thanks. > > Becky Becky, It's funny you should ask this. James and I looked up this info on Sunday for a fanfic we are writing. The original air date for BGdF was 5/12/96. LotF aired 9/22/96 and BE aired 9/29/96. The series started 9/12/93. If I'm not mistaken, these are all US air dates. === Elisabeth Feel free to visit my home at http://geocities.com/Area51/Starship/7859 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:17:20 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Elisabeth Subject: Re: Off Topic: Article in USA Today MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Sandy McDermin wrote: > Heard about the following article which appeared in > USA Today ... today, > and thought I might pass it along. Obviously, it > doesn't have a direct > connection to L&C fanfic, but some of the comments > bring back "fond" > memories all the same. Sandy, Thanks for the post. IMO it wasn't entirely off-topic as it gives value to what we do here. I've always been hesitant to write to the networks, but maybe that will change in the future. === Elisabeth Feel free to visit my home at http://geocities.com/Area51/Starship/7859 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:16:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Questions and Comments on "For the Good of the Child" (Episode 2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In light of Pam's earlier encouragement, Spoiler space for those who haven't read the story yet. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * After enjoying the frenetically paced ending of Season 6's Episode 1, I was looking forward to how the next episode would carry the story forward to an even higher level of tension. I had no doubt "For the Good of the Child" would be well written with rich characterizations meticulously laid out, and I wasn't disappointed on that score. For instance, the story begins with a longish scene shown from the perspective of Lex's henchman, Enrico O'Reilly. Through this, we get a very good impression of O'Reilly's personality and his view of Lex Luthor. Later, we get another very good scene where Lex is partaking of a little entertainment while mulling over his various machinations. I love the build-up of this scene from Lex's inner thoughts to a pull back (like a camera rolling back) to reveal exactly what the "entertainment" is, reinforcing the true nature of the man, and finally, ending with a further pull back to Lex's henchman's point of view of the scene -- back, back, back -- further moving back. Quite nicely done. (Internal Dialogue and Exposition vs. Action) I could go on citing these predominately introspective moments, for many characters are given their due in this manner (Clark, Jimmy, Beth, Constance, and so on). And, although I enjoyed these scenes greatly, it did occur to me that a reliance on exposition and internal dialogue could operate as a drag on the action, reminding one of the maxim, "show do not tell." In fact, there were many times in this story when I wondered why the author chose to describe events or a character's thoughts rather than illustrating the same through action and dialogue. I thought it might be an issue of length, i.e., not wanting the story to get too long. For example, I came across an early paragraph where it was said that Lois and Clark "... stayed awake for another couple of hours talking over what had happened and what they were going to do about it." Okay, I thought, can't fit that interaction in, so have to refer to it in a brief sentence. However, two pages later, Clark is shown thinking about that night, describing it in great detail. Hmm. Why not actually write the scene, then? In my opinion, for a suspense laden story like this one, including more scenes where characters reveal themselves or the plot through active rather than passive action, picks up the pace and keeps the tension high. Certainly, that doesn't mean you eliminate all internal dialogue or exposition. To the contrary -- as I said, I loved the scene at the zoo -- but sometimes I felt that these choices came at the expense of needed scenes, which leads me to my biggest question: Ellen's testimony. (Ellen) The whole basis for Lois and Clark possibly losing custody of their daughter was the alleged actions of her mother. And, frankly, that dynamic is a gut wrenching, unbelievably dramatic opportunity. But, I felt it was ultimately lost. Why didn't we get to see Ellen's testimony as opposed to Perry's -- or Ellen's as well as Perry's if his was important to the story too. If "For the Good of the Child" had been an episode for television, I doubt very seriously that Ellen's testimony would have been left out. It's too good not to show, especially since she was a witness for the prosecution and, we are told, had a rough time of it. In fact, we are later informed that Ellen hurt L&C's case, making it almost essential -- for dramatic purposes -- that we see it. (Beth) Speaking of the court room, I have another question which may end up being a spoiler for the future. Quite nicely, by virtue of the first judge's illness, the reader is left in the dark as to the honesty of the new judge. We don't know which one might be on Lex's payroll, naturally assuming that one of them must be. This was set up very well. But, I wondered, did Beth Luthor have a role in this switch? If so, I think it a very good idea, as it sets up a promising confrontation between the Luthors for a future episode. I have to say, I was really rooting to find Beth hovering in the shadows of the court room after L&C's victory, relieved she had been able to help set things right. (Ms. Bailey) At one point, when Constance Hunter receives a mysterious phone call which *I think* dealt with information on Ms. Bailey, the social worker's, unorthodox methods. I thought perhaps Beth had something to do with *that,* but I couldn't figure out how she could have possibly known about Ms. Bailey's motivations. So, clearly, some other person was involved. Be that as it may, I didn't think it necessarily suspicious that the same social worker would have been returned to a case. After all, she was familiar with the players, so why not? Of course, her obsession with Clark, which is hinted at but not brought out in any detail, *is* suspicious. But, it also puzzled me. Why was it there at all? For the reader it comes out of nowhere and then drops out of sight with little explanation. We have no idea whether it was something completely apart from Lex's plot, *and,* if it was, didn't that make Lex's hand far weaker? For, it seems no matter what Lex did, once he set things in motion, he was always going to lose this case -- the judge "got sick;" Jimmy and Penny found a witness; Ellen and Sam discovered the photo; *and,* as if that wasn't enough, Ms. Bailey was obsessed with Clark. For me, it would have been far more dramatically satisfying (keeping me on the edge of my seat) if *something* had not come out in L&C's favor along the way. I didn't quite see the plot reasoning behind turning the social worker into a disturbed woman, and I was curious as to why it was done. I was very happy to see Ellen redeemed in this episode. (Happy to see she's still at the Superman Foundation.) I felt very sorry for her during this whole episode and would've really loved to have had a reconciliation scene (not just a reference in a conversation between L&C). I think it might have been a poignant moment to have Lois place Laura in Ellen's arms and put her own arm around her mother's shoulders, signifying her trust. Well, I want to thank the Season 6 writers (and especially Chris) for giving me a lot to think about. This story's richness and multifacetedness was fertile ground for a lot of "what if's" and "why not's." I enjoy these type of stories very much. I hope -- dearly hope -- that those who read my comments do not take them in the wrong spirit. I thought about Episode 2 a great deal. To my mind, a high compliment to a good writer. Sandy smcdermin@erols.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:58:01 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: irene d Subject: OT re: Christians on list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain I apologise for sending this out to the entire list, but I can't remember who made the initial request as to whether there were any Christian FoLC's. I responded in the affirmative as others did also. Then I was informed that a new list would be started in conjunction with this list - for Christian FoLC's. I deleted the message and didn't think anything of it for a day, but I have since decided that, although I am a Christian, I have no interest in being on a separate list as well as this one. I have no interest in participating in excluding information from any FoLC due to their religious denomination or lack thereof. Through personal experience reading the posts, on the whole, I feel that those people posting, are ethical people. That is more important to me than their religion. I am not saying that this Christian list should not happen. I do believe in free speech, but I am saying that I do not wish to participate, and to please delete my name. It was not my intent to offend anyone. I sincerely hope that I have not. Best wishes, Irene sirenegold@hotmail.com sirengold on IRC ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:38:42 EDT Reply-To: ChoirGirl2@aol.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "K.M. de Castro" Subject: Re: Professional Writers/Fan Writers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-04-04 23:33:42 EDT, you write: << If there are those out there who don't think that established television writers ever read fanwork based on their ideas and premises because it's a potential 'copyright risk'... Think again. ;) >> I had to chime in here. I read Jennifer Eagan's story, "It Happened All Summer" looooong before "Lois and Clarks" appeared on the tube. My source was an AOL message board archive. Now... was Jennifer's idea "borrowed" for TV? It has always bothered me that there were so many similarities. Marie ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:43:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Dennis A Arendt Subject: Help! Help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anyone else having trouble getting to the message boards or to Zoomway's Ultimate Lois and Clark page. It has been two days now and i can't get in. Help! Brenda ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:56:39 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: OT: Article in US Today MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sandy wrote: > >I'm in the first camp. (Note the John Romano comment about "following >your muse.") However, I'm all for criticism. For me, readers comments >-- good or bad -- always had a greater impact on my thinking for the >next story rather than the one I had just written. > >And, it was always a positive impact. > I tend to be with both camps. There are things I won't change if I especially like them or feel confident in myself that it's right for the character and I can dig in my heels and be mule-headed stubborn with the best of them (right, Becky? Stop sighing...I can hear you.) But on other occasions I find feedback, whether positive or otherwise a great inspiration. In my nfic HOOK for instance, an entire conversation about Clark melting the rock wall accidentally as a teen and the lingering trauma that led to was a *very* late and spur of the moment addon after one of my proofers asked a question about an unrelated point in the narrative. As I was pondering how to answer that with something coherent it suddenly occurred to me to wonder why Clark lit up the branch to provide light for Lois instead of just using his heat vision on the rock wall. And before I knew it, Lois wanted to know why too. Next stop......a 3 page conversation which became my favorite part of the story. And in my current project, Burnout, my proofers' questions and comments have turned what was a simple little tale into an epic of 160 pages and counting which has become a much deeper and emotionally fraught journey for our heroes than I intended it to be when I started. Which is great for me. Interesting article, Sandy. LabRat :) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@ukf.net "When I hear someone sigh, "Life is hard," I'm always tempted to ask, "Compared to what?" - Sydney J. Harris LabRat :) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@ukf.net "When I hear someone sigh, "Life is hard," I'm always tempted to ask, "Compared to what?" - Sydney J. Harris ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:08:22 EDT Reply-To: Aerm1@aol.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: OT: Article in US Today MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Labrat, So how close to finished is Burnout? Some of us are waiting with baited (sp?) breath to find out what happened. ( Besides, if you finish Burnout, maybe you'll get back to Caped Fear.:) Ann ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:30:05 EDT Reply-To: MsLoisette@aol.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Pregnancy Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I have a feeling Dean has been on the Jay Leno show. I probably watched it back then when it orginally aired, I just can't remember when? =( I was so dedicated to LNC.. {I still am =) That I watched absolutely every show that Teri and Dean showed up one! I remember one particular show, it was an awards show where Dean was supposed to be a presenter. He was pictured in the TV Guide ad. Anyways, it was a sport's award show and I sat through the whole bloody thing and no Dean!!! Let's just say I was angry after that, but I was not angry at Dean! I was angry at the show!!! Grrr.... Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:05:06 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: Professional Writers/Fan Writers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:38 PM 4/10/99 EDT, K.M. de Castro wrote: ><< If there are those out there who don't think that established television > writers ever read fanwork based on their ideas and premises because it's a > potential 'copyright risk'... Think again. ;) >> > > I read Jennifer Eagan's story, "It Happened All >Summer" looooong before "Lois and Clarks" appeared on the tube. >Now... was Jennifer's idea "borrowed" for TV? >It has always bothered me that there were so many similarities. Marie, all I can do is give you my own experience. I was talking with a friend (a fellow FoLC) about a story idea I had for my next L&C fanfic. It was an idea I'd written some notes on before Jan. 1997. My friend, who corresponded regularly with Tim Minear, asked if Tim had told me what his next ep was about--because she thought I was describing his episode, which was in production at that moment. He hadn't borrowed my idea; we just came up with it separately around the same time. What could I say except, "GMTA"? Sheila sharper@cncc.cc.co.us ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:37:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Author looking for editing assistance Comments: cc: Steven Don Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, An author contacted the Fanfic Archive looking for some Story Editing assistance. I offered to contact the fanfic listserv for him, since I know what a wonderful, helpful group of FoLCs we have here. :) Please contact him directly if you can provide him with some feedback about his story. His name is Steven Don and his email address is . Here is a brief description of his story: >>>>> The story is about 16K in size and here's a very short synopsis: "An irritable Perry send Lois to write a story about an orphanage. She can really use Clark's help, not just with the story. In the meanwhile, someone finds out a big secret." Any (constructive) comments are welcome... Regards. Steven Don http://shd.cjb.net <<<<< Thanks, FoLCs! Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive kathyb@springnet1.com KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:12:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Professional Writers/Fan Writers In-Reply-To: <1a245f4.244102c2@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 3:38 PM -0400 4/10/99, K.M. de Castro wrote: >I had to chime in here. I read Jennifer Eagan's story, "It Happened All >Summer" looooong before "Lois and Clarks" appeared on the tube. My source was >an AOL message board archive. Now... was Jennifer's idea "borrowed" for TV? >It has always bothered me that there were so many similarities. You think that's similar, try reading Jiji's "What A Tangled Web We Weave"! This story came out in 2nd season, before L&C were even engaged on the show. It deals with what might happen if someone photographs a married Lois and Superman in an imtimate exchange. As we all know, SLV covered this same topic for the show, and we all really amused and excited to see how the show would handle things compared to the fanfic author. But no, I don't think the writer of SLV "stole" Jiji's idea. I think that storyline (as in the case of the Alt Clark visiting our Lois) is one many of us have wondered about, and one that would almost have to be covered by the show. The fanfic is excellent, btw. It's been awhile since I read "Summer", but from what I can remember, I didn't think it had all that many similarities to LACS, other than the main character focus. While it's an excellent story, I don't think it was borrowed. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:24:43 +0500 Reply-To: mulders@mindspring.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bob or Chris Mulder Subject: Re: Questions and Comments on "For the Good of the Child" (Episode 2) In-Reply-To: <370F9590.B3E0D647@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Well, Sandy has certainly written an interesting post. :-) In general, I would prefer to receive such constructive criticism in private, especially about a project that is completed and can't be changed. However, Sandy wrote that my story had given her a lot to think about and that, >I hope -- dearly hope > -- that those who read my comments do not take them in the wrong > spirit. So, I felt that it was important to respond to her comments, even though I'm a pretty shy person. :-) In my turn, I hope that my reply will be seen as an honest attempt to answer her questions, even if we may disagree on some of the points she has raised. :-) > In light of Pam's earlier encouragement, > > > > Spoiler space for those who haven't read the story yet. > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > After enjoying the frenetically paced ending of Season 6's Episode 1, I > was looking forward to how the next episode would carry the story > forward to an even higher level of tension. I had no doubt "For the > Good of the Child" would be well written with rich characterizations > meticulously laid out, and I wasn't disappointed on that score. Thank you. :-) I guess here is as good a place as any to share some background with you ... I just hope I can do it without spilling any beans about upcoming episodes. When the idea of writing an S6 episode was proposed to me, I was told that they wanted to have an underlying theme of "family" throughout the season. It was thought that we could explore L&C's family life, and that of their parents, and then contrast that with other characters' family life: M&J, Sam & Ellen, Lex & Beth. Also, we wanted to give Jimmy more to do. I tried to keep those goals in mind while writing my ep. (There were a couple of other goals, too, but as I said above, I don't want to spoil any potential surprises for you. ;-)) I'd never co-authored anything before, so this was an entirely new experience for me. I'm extremely grateful to have been able to work with two writers I admire (Pam & Barb), and to also be able to collaborate with two people whom I consider my friends (Barb & Pam). We were fortunate, also, in that we all live within driving distance of each other, and so were able to converse face-to-face on more than one occasion. I honestly don't believe we could have managed it if we'd had email as our only means of communication. As you all no doubt remember, Pam's cliffhanger at the end of S5 hinted that Lex was going to try and get his nasty hands on Laura Kent. As a cliffhanger, it was excellent--certainly better than "will Clark come back from NK." Now came the hard part--how we were going to do it. It was decided early on that the baby would not--under any circumstances--ever leave her mom and dad. Most of us are parents ourselves, and we found the thought of Laura being taken from L&C just too awful to contemplate. So, we had to come up with another way. We had to make the threat seem real, immediate, and potentially devastating, but without actually removing the child. Also, we were not supposed to let L&C know that Luthor was behind this plot. They were allowed to suspect, but not actually know. This is because there were/are plans to gradually reveal certain things to both L&C and our readers as the season unfolds. (Word to the wise: don't miss Kathy's ep tonight! ) We felt it would be best, in fact, if Lois and Clark were even left in doubt about whether there had actually been a plot to take their child, which is part of why M&J were sent on a trip, rather than have them be kidnapped, or something like that. There had to be a logical reason for Ellen to be given almost sole responsibility for babysitting Laura, but not one that would make L&C suspicious. We wanted them to discover various "secrets" as the season went along, and we wanted to take our readers along with them for the ride. Now that I've said all that ... let's go on to Sandy's points. > > For instance, the story begins with a longish scene shown from the > perspective of Lex's henchman, Enrico O'Reilly. Through this, we get a > very good impression of O'Reilly's personality and his view of Lex > Luthor. Later, we get another very good scene where Lex is partaking of > a little entertainment while mulling over his various machinations. I > love the build-up of this scene from Lex's inner thoughts to a pull back > (like a camera rolling back) to reveal exactly what the "entertainment" > is, reinforcing the true nature of the man, and finally, ending with a > further pull back to Lex's henchman's point of view of the scene -- > back, back, back -- further moving back. Quite nicely done. You're the only one who has so accurately articulated what I was trying to achieve in that zoo scene, Sandy. Thank you! Other people have mentioned that they liked that scene--that it gave them chills, or made them hate Lex even more. ;-) All of which, I was glad to hear as well. As a writer, it's always lovely to find out that you've gotten exactly the reaction that you were trying for. > > (Internal Dialogue and Exposition vs. Action) > > I could go on citing these predominately introspective moments, for many > characters are given their due in this manner (Clark, Jimmy, Beth, > Constance, and so on). And, although I enjoyed these scenes greatly, it > did occur to me that a reliance on exposition and internal dialogue > could operate as a drag on the action, reminding one of the maxim, "show > do not tell." In fact, there were many times in this story when I > wondered why the author chose to describe events or a character's > thoughts rather than illustrating the same through action and dialogue. > I thought it might be an issue of length, i.e., not wanting the story to > get too long. For example, I came across an early paragraph where it > was said that Lois and Clark "... stayed awake for another couple of > hours talking over what had happened and what they were going to do > about it." Okay, I thought, can't fit that interaction in, so have to > refer to it in a brief sentence. However, two pages later, Clark is > shown thinking about that night, describing it in great detail. Hmm. > Why not actually write the scene, then? In my opinion, for a > suspense laden story like this one, including more scenes where > characters reveal themselves or the plot through active rather than > passive action, picks up the pace and keeps the tension high. > Certainly, that doesn't mean you eliminate all internal dialogue or > exposition. To the contrary -- as I said, I loved the scene at the zoo > -- but sometimes I felt that these choices came at the expense of > needed scenes, which leads me to my biggest question: Ellen's > testimony. There is a lot of truth in what you say, but there truly was a concern about length. I couldn't show every conversation, so I had to choose. Since I was mostly interested in continuing to explore Clark's reaction to the curtailment of his Sman duties now that he was a father, it seemed better, to me, to show that conversation from his POV. Otherwise, I might have had to include it twice--once with the two of them, and then again when Clark is "obsessing" about it the next day. There are, however, probably a million different ways to tell any story, so your viewpoint is as valid as mine. Kathy, Pam and I shared some interesting emails about exposition vs. dialog. :-) If I had had the time, as well as not being all too aware that this episode was already overlong, I probably would have had many more scenes with dialog. MMIKC has quite a number of those, and we all know how long that is. > > (Ellen) > > The whole basis for Lois and Clark possibly losing custody of their > daughter was the alleged actions of her mother. And, frankly, that > dynamic is a gut wrenching, unbelievably dramatic opportunity. But, I > felt it was ultimately lost. Why didn't we get to see Ellen's testimony > as opposed to Perry's -- or Ellen's as well as Perry's if his was > important to the story too. If "For the Good of the Child" had been an > episode for television, I doubt very seriously that Ellen's testimony > would have been left out. It's too good not to show, especially since > she was a witness for the prosecution and, we are told, had a rough time > of it. In fact, we are later informed that Ellen hurt L&C's case, > making it almost essential -- for dramatic purposes -- that we see it. Ellen's testimony is not in there for a couple of reasons. As I mentioned above, I was trying to include a lot about relationships and family. I felt that by revealing Ellen's time on the witness stand through having her and Sam talk about it, I would be able to focus more on their characters and less on the angst of the courtroom. The length constraint was again at the back of my mind, and last, but not least, I just didn't want to write the scene you've described. I felt sorry for Ellen, frankly, and didn't want to write the blow-by-blow account of her humiliation. It was bad enough to have to make her a hapless dupe, but I didn't care to dwell on it. Perhaps you are right that it would have made a fine dramatic scene, but if that's the case someone else would have had to write it. As for putting Perry on the stand, I felt it was owed to him after the treatment he'd received during TPvsLL. :-) And, I needed his testimony to help add to the drama. I wanted L&C to have a litte hope after listening to Perry, only to have that hope fizzle by what the prosecutor says afterwards. > > (Beth) > > Speaking of the court room, I have another question which may end up > being a spoiler for the future. Quite nicely, by virtue of the first > judge's illness, the reader is left in the dark as to the honesty of the > new judge. We don't know which one might be on Lex's payroll, naturally > assuming that one of them must be. This was set up very well. But, I > wondered, did Beth Luthor have a role in this switch? If so, I think it > a very good idea, as it sets up a promising confrontation between the > Luthors for a future episode. I have to say, I was really rooting to > find Beth hovering in the shadows of the court room after L&C's victory, > relieved she had been able to help set things right. I don't want to give anything away for the future, but Beth isn't the only one who could have been behind these incidents. Enrico hates his boss, so maybe he was secretly spiking Luthor's guns. Perhaps there was someone in the Social Services Dept who got wind of what was going on and disagreed with it, but not enough to come into the open. Or, maybe it was someone else. You're just going to have to wait and see how the season plays out. If L&C don't know everything yet, there's no reason why our readers should. > > (Ms. Bailey) > > At one point, when Constance Hunter receives a mysterious phone call > which *I think* dealt with information on Ms. Bailey, the social > worker's, unorthodox methods. I thought perhaps Beth had something to do > with *that,* but I couldn't figure out how she could have possibly known > about Ms. Bailey's motivations. So, clearly, some other person was > involved. Be that as it may, I didn't think it necessarily suspicious > that the same social worker would have been returned to a case. After > all, she was familiar with the players, so why not? Of course, her > obsession with Clark, which is hinted at but not brought out in any > detail, *is* suspicious. But, it also puzzled me. Why was it there at > all? For the reader it comes out of nowhere and then drops out of sight > with little explanation. We have no idea whether it was something > completely apart from Lex's plot, *and,* if it was, didn't that make > Lex's hand far weaker? Ms. Bailey was there for a reason. Trust me. (Reminder: don't forget to read Kathy's ep tonight. ) >For, it seems no matter what Lex did, once he > set things in motion, he was always going to lose this case -- the judge > "got sick;" Jimmy and Penny found a witness; Ellen and Sam discovered > the photo; *and,* as if that wasn't enough, Ms. Bailey was obsessed with > Clark. For me, it would have been far more dramatically satisfying > (keeping me on the edge of my seat) if *something* had not come out in > L&C's favor along the way. I didn't quite see the plot reasoning behind > turning the social worker into a disturbed woman, and I was curious as > to why it was done. The thing I liked about all of that was that L&C had very little to do with any of it. One of the unwritten "rules" for fanfic writing is that, because the show is about L&C, they are supposed to solve the case and catch the bad guy. I forget where I read that, but I remember thinking at the time that that just wasn't fair. So, in my ep, I wanted to give the minor characters something to do, and I ended up letting each of them have a hand in rescuing L&C and Laura. We know that the judge wanted to rule in L&C's favor anyway, but she was grateful for their help because what they found certainly made her decision that much more sound. > > I was very happy to see Ellen redeemed in this episode. (Happy to see > she's still at the Superman Foundation.) I felt very sorry for her > during this whole episode and would've really loved to have had a > reconciliation scene (not just a reference in a conversation between > L&C). I think it might have been a poignant moment to have Lois place > Laura in Ellen's arms and put her own arm around her mother's shoulders, > signifying her trust. That might have been a good scene to write, it's true. Once again, however, the dratted thing was already too long. :-) > > Well, I want to thank the Season 6 writers (and especially Chris) for > giving me a lot to think about. This story's richness and > multifacetedness was fertile ground for a lot of "what if's" and "why > not's." I enjoy these type of stories very much. I hope -- dearly hope > -- that those who read my comments do not take them in the wrong > spirit. I thought about Episode 2 a great deal. To my mind, a high > compliment to a good writer. I'm glad that my story gave you a lot to think about. As you said, that's certainly a "high compliment." To have people read and like one's work is wonderful, and I don't think any of us writers would deny that. However, to have given a reader a story which stays with them enough that they want to analyse it, that is praise indeed. I hope my answers were helpful, even if they don't persuade anyone to my point of view. --Chris ... who thinks it might be helpful sometime to discuss the possibilities and pitfalls of writing as part of a group such as S5 or S6. The constraints a writer faces when he or she agrees to that task could make for an interesting exchange. > > Sandy > smcdermin@erols.com mailto:mulders@mindspring.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:25:15 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peggy Mueller Subject: Re: Dean movies (about "spoilers") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Margaret wrote: >I was "spoiled" last year when it came out in Britain and a lot of the UK >folcs gave their critiques on it. I never expected to have the opportunity >to see it back then, so I read the spoilers;\ At the current rate of >progress, I may only ever know this movie by those spoilers > >Margaret > Do you know when the critiques were posted? I've searched the fanfic archives, but I haven't found a whole lot. I noticed that someone asked why the film wasn't released to theaters in the U.S., and if an answer was given, I missed it. Can anyone fill me in on that? Peggy gremlino@pathway.net ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:37:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: S6, Ep 7, Fatal Attraction, 01/10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FATAL ATTRACTION by Kathy Brown Season 6, Episode 7 Air Date: April 11, 1999 (Feedback welcome and appreciated.) __________________ FATAL ATTRACTION "Yes, mother .... No, mother .... Uh huh ... Well, I think-- ... Yes, but-- ... But I-- ..." Lois Lane cradled the phone to her ear as she paced in her living room. Every few moments, she raised her eyes hopefully up the stairs towards the bedrooms, straining to hear if there was any noise coming from the nursery. It had taken Lois 47 minutes (she had counted every single one) to get Laura to finally stop crying and settle down for her afternoon nap, and Lois had collapsed on the living room couch afterwards, relishing the peace and quiet. But now she almost wished Laura would wake up and give her an excuse to get off the phone. "Well, have you *talked* to Daddy about this? ... So then you should-- .... Yes, mother ... Fine ... OK, that's fine .... No, I don't mind. I'll talk to you another time. Good-bye." Lois hung up the phone and walked further into the living room. Picking up a pillow from the couch, she hugged it tightly to her face ... and screamed. Clark Kent walked through the dining room door, watching his wife warily. "Uh oh, what did I miss?" Lois removed the pillow and scowled. "My mother drives me CRAZY!" Clark couldn't help but smile. "And this is news?" "Don't push me," Lois warned. "And where have you been anyway?" "Uh ... ribbon cutting ceremony at the new Recreation Center on the north side. I told you about it." "A three hour ribbon cutting. Lovely." Her voice was sarcastic. "Well, an hour; then I did some patrolling and came back. Geez." "I'm sorry, Clark." Lois sighed heavily. "I'm just having a bad day and I could have used the break, that's all. Laura has this cold and she can't breathe very well, which makes her cry ... then the more she cries, the more stuffed she gets, and the more she can't breathe. She's in a bad mood, and now *I'm* in a bad mood. I feel sorry for her being sick, but when she's screaming at me for an hour straight ... I just want to drop-kick her out the back door!" "Lois!" Lois rolled her eyes. "I wouldn't really DO it; I'm just venting. You've been gone all day and now you get to hear me vent. If you can't be home to help around the house, you can at least be appreciative of what I--" Lois stopped abruptly and clamped a hand over her mouth, her eyes huge. "Ohmigod," she exclaimed in a muffled tone. "I can't believe I just said that." Throwing her arms in the air, Lois looked at Clark pleadingly. "I sound just like my mother!!" Clark raised his hands in a placating motion as he led his wife to the couch. "Come on, sit down and rest. It sounds like you had a bad day with Laura, and then the phone call with your mother just put you over the edge." Lois rested her head on Clark's shoulder, feeling the worst of her bad mood begin to dissipate. "I'm sorry, Clark; I didn't mean to harp on you. I know how awful that sounded, not trusting where you were. I do trust you; it's just that I spent the last fifteen minutes on the phone with my mother and she makes me so CRAZY." Clark chuckled. "You said that already, about the time you were screaming into the pillow. What happened this time?" Lois snorted. "History repeating itself. The same old arguments ... I don't know why I let myself start to believe that they could work things out. Oh sure, at first they were on their best behavior, but now that the 'honeymoon' is over, they are falling back into their old patterns. My dad is working late again, and my mom is suspicious." "Suspicious?" "Daddy was always working late--and he did spend a lot of time in his office--but there were also times that he said he had to go into work on the weekends or in the evenings, when what he was really doing was meeting another woman. When he'd get home, they'd start fighting almost as soon as he was in the door, and mother would grill him about where he'd been and how he wasn't home to help out enough." Lois wrapped her arms around her husband. "So I'm sorry for starting that with you. I trust you, and know that you wouldn't be gone if you didn't have to be." Clark pulled her close. "And I'm sorry for not getting back sooner. If I had thought about it, I might have cut my patrol shorter. I should have realized Laura would be tough to deal with when she's sick." They sat in silence for a few moments, just enjoying the peace and quiet, when Lois suddenly began to laugh. "Boy, Mother thought she had it bad with Daddy working at odd hours. If she only knew how many times you've had to fly out in the middle of the night, for calls that only you can hear. She'd never believe you weren't sleeping around." Clark pulled back slightly and lifted Lois's chin with his finger until their eyes met. "Lois," he said sincerely, "I would *never* cheat on you." Lois smiled and placed her mouth over his. "I know," she murmured. Clark hugged her tight. "Mmm, this is nice," he said as they kissed. "The baby is asleep. Is there anything you'd like to ... do?" Lois lifted her head. "Actually," she said with a smile, "there's been something I've been wanting to do all day." "Oh really?" "Yeah ...." Lois sat back on the couch. "Can you hand me that magazine over there? I've been trying to finish this one article all day long, but I keep getting interrupted!" Clark laughed. "That wasn't exactly what I had in mind," he told her honestly. "But if that's what you really want to do ..." At her apologetic nod, he sat up and reached for the magazine she'd indicated. Choosing one of the other magazines for himself, he leaned back against Lois, content to sit with her and read quietly. A few minutes later, however, Clark suddenly stood up with a smile. "I'll tell you what, how about I run out to the bakery and pick us up a snack? I've been craving banana muffins since I interrupted a robbery at a Kingston bakery at lunch-time. I'll try my best to be back before Laura wakes up." Since Lois was never one to argue with food being brought to her, she waved him on with a smile and went back to reading her magazine. Clark hadn't been gone more than twenty minutes when the doorbell rang. Lois set down her magazine with a sigh. Long gone were the days when she could read a magazine from cover to cover! Looking through the peephole at the delivery person, Lois opened the door with a surprised smile. "Flowers!" "Kent residence?" the bored teenager asked. "Sign here." "Thank you very much!" Lois exclaimed, stunned by the large bouquet that she had just traded the pen for. 'Muffins, my foot!' she laughed as she closed the door. She knew where her husband had flown off to in such a hurry--the flower shop. Lois placed the beautiful bouquet in water and set the vase on the coffee table before opening the card. She smiled as she read it. The wording was a bit over-dramatic, even for her husband, but she still appreciated the sentiment. Given their recent conversation, it was a very touching way to show that he thought about her when he had to leave, not any other woman. It wasn't long before she heard a familiar swoosh, followed by the whir of her husband spinning back into his casual clothes. A few seconds later, Clark walked in from the kitchen, a bag of pastries in his mouth and a cup of tea in each hand. He set a cup down on the coffee table in front of Lois, then settled himself in next to her. "They had just made a fresh batch of sourdough-banana scones and they smelled so good I had to get them instead of the muffins," he said, opening the bag. Clark then noticed the flowers. "Hey, these are new ... we didn't have these here before I left, did we?" "Oh, listen to you, Mr. Innocent," she grinned. Lois kissed her husband soundly. "They were delivered just as you left. Thank you; they're beautiful." Clark accepted the kiss, but when they separated, he looked doubtful. "Lois, I didn't send these flowers. Are you sure they were meant for us? Maybe the delivery person got the wrong address." "He said 'Kent residence' ... and the delivery card had our address ..." Lois reached for the index card she had tossed on the table. "See, right here, it says from Clark-- wait a minute, it doesn't say *from* Clark Kent. It says--" "*To* Clark Kent." Lois and Clark stared at each other, confused. Lois's expression quickly turned to shock, however, as she remembered the note that was also included with the delivery. As she opened the envelope and held the note for her husband to read, she saw her husband squirm. Suddenly, Clark Kent looked very uncomfortable. Darling, I long for you every moment that we're apart. My love for you will overcome any obstacle in our path. I miss feeling your lips against mine, and I ache to feel our bodies pressed close once again. Soon, my darling, we will be together for all time. Love forever, me ***** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:37:50 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: S6, ep 7, Fatal Attraction, 02/10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ACT ONE ***** Lex Luthor sat in his study, staring at a computer screen and pecking away at a keyboard. The more he clicked, the tighter his jaw clenched and the harder he hit the keys. His wife, Beth, approached him cautiously. "Lex, darling, the chef is getting ready to serve lunch in the dining room ... won't you join me today? You've been working with that spreadsheet all morning. You should take a break." Lex just waved her off silently, and continued to study the numbers before him. Beth hesitated, then tried again. "You know, I could help you with that. I'm quite a good typist and I could enter any data you needed me to," she offered helpfully. "I could go a lot faster than you can with that two finger approach, and then we could both have lunch." Lex turned quickly to offer a biting retort, but stopped himself as he looked into his wife's earnest expression. Relaxing slightly, he sat back in his chair. "I never saw a reason to learn to type. I've always paid people to do it for me. I've never regretted it--there were much more valuable ways I could spend my time--but I do admit there are times when the skill would come in handy. Like now, when I no longer have the finances to employ such a large staff." Beth pondered this surprising hint of vulnerability from her husband. "I know how difficult it has been," she finally responded, "to start from nothing again. Five years ago, you were the fourth richest man in the world--" "Third richest." "--then everything was auctioned off. Still, in the last year since you've been back in Metropolis, you've done a marvelous job of rebuilding your empire. I know you don't have nearly the resources you had before, but you are still a remarkable businessman, Lex, to have come as far as you have. You make it look so easy." Lex took her hand and kissed it. "Thank you, my dear. I only wish that it were as easy as that, with this bit of bad luck I've been having lately. True, I have considerable wealth, but I fear I am a bit too leveraged for my tastes." After a brief reflective moment, however, Lex smiled confidently. "That situation will be remedied very soon, however." "Leveraged?" Beth asked slowly, carefully wrapping her mouth around the unfamiliar word. Lex simply smiled indulgently. "Nothing to worry your pretty little head about, my dear. Just business talk. Now, why don't you be a good girl and go down to the dining room and wait for me there. I'll finish up here in a moment, and meet you shortly." "All right, Lex. Don't work too hard though ... I want you to eat today. You have to keep up your strength." Lex had already turned his back on her, however, and had gone back to studying the spreadsheet, lost in his own world. ***** Beth Luthor looked regretfully at her husband before shutting the study door. "Leverage," she said quietly as she walked down the hall. "Borrowing money to make investments or purchases, hoping to sell at a higher price that you bought for, thereby making a substantial profit." ***** Lois Lane exited police headquarters and walked down the stone steps to the sidewalk. She squinted into the mid-day sun as she waited for her husband to catch up with her after holding open the door. "What a waste of a Monday morning," she muttered. When Clark joined her, she directed her comments to him. "People in Metropolis have been turning up dead for months now, and the police still have no suspects!" Clark sighed in frustration. "I know. I thought by coming down here today we might be able to get Henderson to spill, but he's not talking." "How can he not be talking? Bodies are turning up left and right. There might be a serial killer on the loose." Clark shook his head. "I don't know, Lois. Several of the M.O.'s are the same, but they don't all match up. And the police can't find any links between the victims; they just think random violence is on the upturn. I studied the files of the early victims a few months ago and nothing struck me as suspicious. "Except for that woman who drugged my mother," Lois pointed out. "She was an early victim and she was *very* suspicious!" "I can't argue there, but I couldn't find a connection between her and the previous victims. Nothing to prove these killings are all related. Besides, the police ruled that death a suicide so they don't even include her in the official body count." Lois stopped next to their car and unlocked the driver's side door. "There's something going on here, Clark; I can feel it. We've been so distracted lately we haven't had time to look into these most recent victims. I think we should do that next." Clark chuckled as he entered the passenger seat. "You mean you found fighting for custody of Laura, my mother getting involved with a protest movement, and having our daughter turned into a teenager overnight distracting?" He winked at his wife. "Gee, we're slipping." Lois smiled at him from behind the steering wheel. "Hey, don't forget someone making a pass at my husband. You think I wasn't watching all those police women in there, seeing if any of them were making eyes at you?" "You're still thinking about that note and the flowers? Lois, I told you, I would *never*--" At the anxious expression that flickered across Clark's face, Lois raised a hand quickly to reassure him. "Yes, I'm thinking about them, but no, I don't think you are cheating on me." She smiled tenderly as she brushed his chin with her fingers. "I trust you, remember?" Clark caught her hand and pressed a gentle kiss into her palm. "I remember, and I trust you, too," he concurred softly. "I still think someone's just playing a joke." "Easy for you to say. You didn't get three hang-up calls yesterday," Lois said pointedly as she retrieved her hand and started the car. "Well, maybe they're taking the joke too far. Let's grab a quick lunch and get back to the newsroom. We'll keep our ears open at the Planet and see if we can learn anything." "Fine with me." Suddenly Lois turned to her husband with a mischievous grin. "Hey, maybe Ralph has given up his crush on me, and has turned his attentions to you instead." At Clark's horrified look, Lois laughed out loud and pulled the car into traffic. ***** "The Daily Planet newsroom is divided into sections, just like the newspaper itself ...." Jimmy Olsen walked through the newsroom gesturing expressively, an attractive young woman following closely behind him. "Sports and Classifieds are down on the second floor, while Lifestyle, Entertainment and the City beat are up here on three. We pull a fair bit of our International news off the wire--either from the Planet's overseas offices or from other news agencies--though sometimes our City reporters are able to get some directly. Like when they run into Superman after an international rescue and he gives them an interview about it." "Where's the Lifestyle department again?" the young woman asked, looking more than a little overwhelmed by the huge office space. "That's where we just came from," Jimmy explained. "Through that door back there, take a left ..." The two stopped as Jimmy pointed out directions. "Once they get a desk for you, you're going to sit in the Lifestyle area, but with Mrs. Lawrence, the Lifestyle Section Editor, out until this afternoon for a doctor's appointment, they're not sure where to put you yet. Personnel said you could fill out your employment papers here in the City section. We have an extra desk since one of our reporters just left on an overseas assignment." The woman nodded as Jimmy led her to her desk. "Thanks, Jimmy. I appreciate you helping me. I don't think I could have found my way here without getting lost. A couple people from the department took me out to lunch, but I'm kind of on my own now until Mrs. Lawrence gets back." Jimmy smiled. "No problem ... Kate, right?" At her nod, he continued. "I got lost a few times my first few days at the Planet, too. But you'll get used to it quickly." Jimmy looked at his watch. "Uh oh, I gotta go ... I was supposed to collect some files for Lois and she should be back any minute. When she calls on her cell phone from the car, you know she's anxious to get the information! Talk to you later, Kate." ***** "I hope Jimmy has those files for me when we get in," Lois said, fidgeting as she watched the numbers light up in the Daily Planet elevator. "There has to be something connecting these murders, and I'm going to find out what." Clark grinned. "That's what I love about you. You never give up on anything easily." Lois smiled at Clark over her shoulder. "That's not the only thing you love about me, is it?" she teased. Clark laughed. "Nope, that's just one of the many." "Good." Lois turned with a grin, standing on tiptoes to give him a quick kiss. "Just checking." The change in her demeanor was swift, however, as the ding of the elevator announced the arrival of the Daily Planet's top reporting team in the newsroom. Lois had barely started down the stairs into the City section before she'd spotted her quarry. "Jimmy! Do you have those files I asked you for?" Jimmy set the armful of files on Lois's desk. "Ask and you shall receive, oh, brilliant investigative reporter." Lois couldn't help but smile at Jimmy's exhalation. "My, aren't we in a good mood?" Lois looked around the newsroom, then back at Jimmy knowingly. "Let me guess, the cute new employee at six o'clock?" Jimmy turned to look behind him, and saw the young woman he had just given the tour to sitting at her desk, several yards away. When he turned back to Lois, he had a look of pretend hurt. "Lois, I'm shocked. You know I have a girlfriend." Lois snickered. "Uh huh ... and I also know you still like to window shop, even if you have no intention of buying anything." "Wha--? I--I ... I don't ...." He cringed. "Am I that obvious?" Lois rolled her eyes. "Men! Don't worry, I won't tell Penny, though I'd bet a hundred dollars I wouldn't be telling her anything she doesn't already know." Lois elbowed Jimmy. "Just keep your eyes and hands to yourself, lover boy, and you'll be fine." "I'll remember that," Jimmy quipped with a grin, suddenly back to his easy-going self. "Now I'd better get back to work, before Perry has my hide. Let me know if you need any more research." He started to back away >from her desk. Lois smiled gratefully at him. "Thanks, Jimmy." When he'd gone, Lois settled into her chair and opened the first folder in the large stack. ***** As Clark checked his voice mail, he was unaware of a female set of eyes watching him as he scribbled notes at his desk. An awed smile broke out on the young woman's face as she watched him work, and she quickly pushed aside her papers and pulled a compact mirror from her purse. After checking her hair and reapplying her lipstick, she stood up and crossed the room to his desk. The woman stood nervously in front of Clark's desk, her smile wavering a bit when he failed to notice her. Finally, no longer able to contain herself, she spoke. "Hi, Clark." Clark looked up at the breathless young woman standing before him. Her dark eyes were bright as she eagerly waited for his response. He stared at her for a moment, trying to place her. She looked somewhat familiar and she was acting like she knew him ... Soon Clark's face lit up in recognition. "Kate? Kate Martin! I don't believe it; how long has it been?!" Clark stood up to shake Kate's hand, but she pulled him into a quick hug instead. "Why didn't you let me know you were in town?" Clark asked when they stepped apart. "Well, actually," she responded happily, "I--" Lois looked up from her files at the sudden conversation, and noted the young woman she had pointed out to Jimmy earlier. Since the woman was standing in the aisle between Lois and Clark's desks, Lois decided to stand and introduce herself. "Hi," she said, interrupting Kate's explanation. "I'm Lois Lane, Clark's ... partner." At the last word, she winked at her husband. Kate seemed surprised to see another person standing with her and Clark, but she soon recovered. "Nice to meet you, Lois," she said. "I've seen your name next to Clark's on some articles." Clark quickly made the more detailed introductions. "Lois, this is Kate Martin. Kate and I used to work together in Smallville. She did a summer internship at the Smallville Press while I was the Editor there. That was ... gosh, eight years ago now? Nine?" Kate nodded. "I know, I can't believe it." She turned and stared into Clark's eyes. "It seems like only yesterday ..." Lois raised an eyebrow. The look on Kate's face was unmistakable. The young woman had a definite crush on her husband. Curious about this woman, Lois offered, "Clark, I think Kate is working here now. Wasn't that you sitting over at Frank's old desk, Kate?" Kate nodded. "Uh huh; they're supposed to find me my own desk tomorrow, but they told me to use one over here this afternoon." Clark was surprised but visibly pleased. "You've got a job with the Planet? That's wonderful. What are you going to be doing?" "Well, I'm kind of starting at the bottom--I'm working as an assistant to Mrs. Lawrence in the Lifestyle section. I'm going to be doing a lot of copy-editing and rewrites in the beginning, but if I work hard, I know I can be an editor myself someday. That's been my goal for a long time--working for a big city newspaper. So, I decided to just go for it! I moved to Metropolis, set up an interview with Mrs. Lawrence, and here I am." Clark smiled at Kate's earnest, cheerful demeanor. "Well, good for you. And welcome to Metropolis. We'll have to have you over for dinner sometime." Clark looked at Lois, who smiled and nodded politely in agreement. Kate glanced at Lois for a moment, then back to Clark. "We?" she asked, confused. Clark picked up the picture frame on his desk. He turned it so Kate could see. "Lois is my wife," he explained with a smile. "And this beautiful little thing," he continued proudly, pointing to an inset picture, "is our daughter, Laura." Kate stared at the pictures. "You're married?" She looked at Lois, who nodded and smiled. "Oh ... I ... well ..." The girl seemed at a loss for words. She finally settled on a weak, "Congratulations." There was a brief, awkward moment as the three of them stood there staring at each other, and Lois couldn't help feeling relieved when Jimmy rushed over to them. "Lois," he exclaimed, his voice sounding slightly deeper than normal. "I found one more file from that information you asked me to get. I thought it might be helpful." Lois smiled at him and reached for the folder he was holding out to her. She couldn't help noticing that his eyes weren't on hers, though, but on Kate. Lois chuckled to herself and shook her head slightly. "Thanks, Jimmy." Clark seemed grateful for the interruption, too, and flashed Kate a quick smile before turning to Lois. "Well, Lois, should we get to work?" Lois nodded. "Yeah, we'd better. Nice to meet you, Kate." Kate smiled, but Lois couldn't help noticing that it seemed a bit forced. "It was nice meeting you, too." As they returned to their chairs, Lois glanced back at Kate, who was settling herself in at her desk and talking with Jimmy. "Did something about Kate's reaction seem strange to you, Clark?" Clark looked confused. "What do you mean? Don't you like Kate?" "Oh, no, that's not it. She seems very nice. It's just--" Lois thought for a minute, then shrugged. "No, never mind. I'm sure she's just nervous about starting a new job and everything." Deciding it best to change the subject, Lois held up the folder. "I hope there's more useful information in here than we were able to get this morning at police headquarters." ****** The afternoon passed swiftly, but by the end of the day, Lois and Clark were no less frustrated than they had been at the police station. The background checks Jimmy had assembled on the various victims offered a wide range of information. There were people from all walks of life--art collectors and trash collectors, business men and homeless men, people with long criminal records and those with not even a traffic ticket. Discouraged, Lois and Clark decided to call it a night, and retrieved their daughter from the daycare center downstairs. When they got home from work, Lois fed Laura while Clark put together the fixings for a quick dinner. He came back into the living room just as Lois was buttoning up her shirt. "Come on, sweetheart," Clark cooed at his little girl. "Let's get you into a dry diaper so Mommy and Daddy can eat their own dinner." He turned to his wife. "Lois, dinner is almost ready. Just stir the sauce a little so it doesn't burn, OK?" At Lois's nod, Clark and Laura headed up the stairs. Lois entered the kitchen and smiled as she breathed in the heavenly aromas. It wasn't anything fancy--just some sweet and sour chicken Clark had made over the weekend and was now heating up--but she was hungry! Noticing the sauce was bubbling, Lois turned down the heat and pulled out two plates. Placing a generous spoon of rice in the center of each dish, she was in the process of covering the plates with sauce when the phone rang. "Clark?" Lois called out. "Can you get that?" "I can't, honey," he called back. "I'm in the middle of changing Laura." Lois awkwardly set the pan and plate down and reached for the phone. "Hello?" She was surprised when nobody responded on the other end. She felt her skin prickle. "Hello?" she asked again, this time her tone reflecting her anger. Feeling her temper flaring, she snapped into the phone, "Whoever this is, quit calling us!" Clark walked in carrying Laura, just in time to see Lois slam the phone down angrily. "What was that all about?" Lois shook her head, trying to calm herself down. "Just our not-so-friendly neighborhood stalker," she answered through gritted teeth. "I wish whoever this is would quit calling and just leave us alone. It's getting a little old." "Are you okay?" Clark asked, putting a hand gently on her shoulder. "You look a little shaken." Lois shrugged his hand off her shoulder and walked over to get the plates. "No, I'm fine. I'm just mad, that's all." Clark looked at his wife in concern for a moment, then quickly put Laura in the baby swing next to the table, trying to make his voice sound happy. "Here you go, baby girl ... you can swing while Mommy and Daddy eat." ***** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:38:18 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: S6, ep 7, Fatal Attraction, 03/10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dinner went quickly, though Lois continued to feel somewhat distracted by the disturbing series of hang ups she'd gotten over the past few days. But she did her best to put aside her thoughts and enjoy the opportunity that she, Clark and Laura had for a little family time. After an enjoyable evening playing with Laura and talking, Lois felt more relaxed by the time Laura's bedtime came. Clark offered to put Laura in bed, and told Lois to go ahead and take some time for herself. Lois didn't need any more encouragement. By t