From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG9902B" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:20:28 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: PROMO: S6, episode 5, "Hypergirl" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" PROMO: Season 6, Episode 5, "Hypergirl" Airing Sunday, February 14, 1999 __________________ ANNOUNCER: Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, Mxyzptlk wants the world .... And Superman's baby, too. __________________ "Mxyzptlk!" Clark exclaimed, his memory of a particularly bad Christmas leaping into his mind. The imp glared at him. "Mr. Mxyzptlk, if you don't mind!" he replied in an exasperated tone. __________________ ANNOUNCER: This Valentine's Day ... __________________ << Shot of Mxyzptlk floating in mid-air, dressed in a diaper and holding a heart-tipped bow and arrow >> __________________ ANNOUNCER: Lois and Clark are going to get more than hearts and flowers >from their little girl. __________________ Lois made a frustrated sound as she sipped her tea. "First it was 'she's just a newborn', now it's 'she's teething'. What's it going to be next week?" *** Laura, on telephone: "Hi Mommy!" ___________________ ANNOUNCER: But will Metropolis ever be the same? __________________ "I can't believe the way you embarrassed me," Laura yelled. "None of the other kids were being hauled out by their parents." "You aren't one of the other kids!" Lois yelled back. "You're my kid, and I won't have you in the middle of a mob." *** "You leave Laura out of this," Clark said loudly. Mxyzptlk shook his head in mock dismay. "Can't do that, Sups," he said brightly. "She's all part of the plan." ___________________ ANNOUNCER: On Sunday, February 14, join S6 for ... ____________________ Jimmy: "I thought you were Ultrawoman." Laura: "I'm just a girl." She paused for a moment before adding with a small smile, "Hypergirl." ___________________ "Hypergirl" by Crystal Wimmer. Coming February 14 to a monitor near you! ___________________ Superman: "Young Lady, we need to talk." ___________________________________________________________ ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com http://userweb.springnet1.com/kathyb/ KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 02:22:39 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Annette Ciotola Subject: Re: PROMO: S6, episode 5, "Hypergirl" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit LOL!!! I can just see this promo running on TV!!! Can't *wait* until next week!!!!!! Anne :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:38:31 +1100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Stosser Subject: Re: PROMO: S6, episode 5, "Hypergirl" In-Reply-To: <6546b84b.36be90bf@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:22 AM 08/02/99 EST, you wrote: >LOL!!! > >I can just see this promo running on TV!!! > >Can't *wait* until next week!!!!!! > >Anne :) ok, but who's going to play Laura? jenerator@ozemail.com.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318 Photos of David (6) and Megan (3) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:41:43 -0700 Reply-To: desertrat@uswest.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Desert Rat Organization: Desert Rat Computer Services Subject: Re: PROMO: S6, episode 5, "Hypergirl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry to be way off topic, but what is the correct address to e-mail the group. I just had a hard drive crash and it seems to have taken my brain with it. Thanks guys. By the way, what was the name of the episode that L&C were talking on the phone with no phone cord? Jenny Stosser wrote: > At 02:22 AM 08/02/99 EST, you wrote: > >LOL!!! > > > >I can just see this promo running on TV!!! > > > >Can't *wait* until next week!!!!!! > > > >Anne :) > > ok, but who's going to play Laura? > jenerator@ozemail.com.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn > (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318 > Photos of David (6) and Megan (3) on the Stosser Family HomePage: > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! -- www.knight.cncfamily.com ICQ# :29945196 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:46:37 +0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Query from 'House of Luthor' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi! Is there anyone out there who knows the script of 'House of Luthor' so well that they could answer this question for me - it's essential to enable me to finish my latest fanfic, and I'd rather not wait until I can find the opportunity to watch the ep again. At the end, when Lois and Clark are talking outside the Planet, which of them says (ostensibly about the globe) 'I've never seen anything so beautiful in my life' and who then replies 'I was just thinking the same thing'. I think it was Lois, then Clark replied, but can't remember. Thanks in advance to anyone who can tell me - I'll give you a credit in the story, if you like! Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:09:16 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: James M Shriver Subject: Re: Query from 'House of Luthor' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clark says I've never seen anything so beautiful in my life first.Ep was just on tnt here in us :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:43:11 +0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Query from 'House of Luthor' In-Reply-To: <19990208.071554.-119829.0.Jtek@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Thank you very much, James - just what I needed to hear.... Wendy > Clark says I've never seen anything so beautiful in my life first.Ep was > just on tnt here in us :) ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:11:25 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy N Sowell Subject: Re: Query from 'House of Luthor' Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii <***Is there anyone out there who knows the script of 'House of Luthor' so well that they could answer this question for me - it's essential to enable me to finish my latest fanfic, and I'd rather not wait until I can find the opportunity to watch the ep again. At the end, when Lois and Clark are talking outside the Planet, which of them says (ostensibly about the globe) 'I've never seen anything so beautiful in my life' and who then replies 'I was just thinking the same thing'. I think it was Lois, then Clark replied, but can't remember. Thanks in advance to anyone who can tell me - I'll give you a credit in the story, if you like! Wendy***> I just saw this ep on TNT last week! I think it was Clark that said, "I've never seen anything so beautiful...", and then Lois replied "I was thinking the same thing". ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:43:56 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Query from 'House of Luthor' Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/8/99 2:13:34 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jsowell@METLIFE.COM writes: << At the end, when Lois and Clark are talking outside the Planet, which of them says (ostensibly about the globe) 'I've never seen anything so beautiful in my life' and who then replies 'I was just thinking the same thing'. I think it was Lois, then Clark replied, but can't remember. >> Just checked my tape: Clark says 'I've never seen anything so beautiful in my whole life't but Lois' reply is a bit different. She says:You never gave up on the Planet, your friends, me. Clark counters with I couldn't. You've probably just name everything in this world that's precious to me. And Lois responds with what is probably one of the most well-know quotes: I don't think I have ever, will ever meet anyone quite like you. After that she tries to tell him she is attracted to him and he tells her he never meant what he said about being in love with her. Hope this helps Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:06:47 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Anne Simmonds Subject: Re: Query from 'House of Luthor' Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain >Is there anyone out there who knows the script of 'House of Luthor' >so well that they could answer this question for me - it's essential >to enable me to finish my latest fanfic, and I'd rather not wait >until I can find the opportunity to watch the ep again. > >At the end, when Lois and Clark are talking outside the Planet, which >of them says (ostensibly about the globe) 'I've never seen anything >so beautiful in my life' and who then replies 'I was just thinking >the same thing'. I think it was Lois, then Clark replied, but can't >remember. > >Thanks in advance to anyone who can tell me - I'll give you a credit >in the story, if you like! > >Wendy > >---------------------- >Wendy Richards >w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk > It was Lois and then Clark because Clark was looking at Lois when He said I was just thinking the same thing,. I hope that I was of some help Anne Simmonds ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:04:24 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: Kerths Nominations Reminder Comments: cc: lnc list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all ;) Just wanted to give a quick reminder to everyone about Kerth nominations. There are only two weeks left to nominate your favorite fanfics! Are you guys catching up on your reading?? In case you haven't visited the eligible stories list on my website recently (http://www.ida.net/users/davek/Kerth_Eligibles.htm), a few new stories and changes have been made, so you might want to visit there again to see if you've missed reading anything. ;) Anyway, I hope to see your nominations in my email box soon! Erin :) _________________ erink@ida.net ELK on IRC It's Kerth Awards time!! Visit my 1999 Official Kerth Awards Website! http://www.ida.net/users/davek ***** NOMINATE YOUR FAVORITE FANFIC! http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/kerth-nom.html ***** "No one knows how long they've got. Anyway, it's not the years that count, it's the moments...right now, as they happen." _________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:46:41 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: April Story Subject: Re: Futuresport Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/7/99, 10:36:30 PM, LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU writes: <> Welcome Cristin =) If anyone is still really wanting the hardback cover with the steam picture on it - you might check out ebay.com as they seem to have people auctioning them all the time, or you might try Barnes & Noble or Borders bookstores and see if they can special order it for you......since it has been a couple of years or so since this book was published - I have no idea if the hardback is still available.....and actually it is only the cover jacket with the pic - as the book itself does not have this picture on it..... Hope this helps =) April ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:09:49 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Annette Ciotola Subject: Re: Query from 'House of Luthor' Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/8/99 5:47:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK writes: << At the end, when Lois and Clark are talking outside the Planet, which of them says (ostensibly about the globe) 'I've never seen anything so beautiful in my life' and who then replies 'I was just thinking the same thing'. I think it was Lois, then Clark replied, but can't remember. >> I remember it as Lois saying it first looking at the globe, then Clark replying meaning Lois (but that's the romantic in me ) But I did check the script I have and this is what it said (bringing me back to reality ): Stern moves off. PERRY (as he, Jimmy, Jack follow) Now, Stern. Stern! Wait just a doggone minute! Lois and Clark are left alone. CLARK (per the globe) I've never seen anything so beautiful in all my life. Lois looks at Clark, seeing him in a newfound light. LOIS You never gave up. On the Planet, on your friends, on me. Clark looks at her. CLARK I couldn't. You've just named almost everything in the world that's precious to me. LOIS I don't think I've ever, _will_ ever meet anyone quite like you. LOIS CLARK Clark... Lois... Anne :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:13:47 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Elizabeth Eve Davis Organization: Mississippi State University Subject: Re: Query from 'House of Luthor' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > who then replies 'I was just thinking the same thing'. No one says that. Lois then starts in on, " You never gave up..." I think you're thinking of Battleground Earth where Clark says, " Let's get married..." Lois replies," That's exactly what I was thinking." ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:23:49 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... In-Reply-To: <107c0347.36bf448d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:09 PM 2/8/99 EST, you wrote: >I remember it as Lois saying it first looking at the globe, then Clark >replying meaning Lois (but that's the romantic in me ) > Lois and Clark are left alone. > > CLARK > (per the globe) > I've never seen anything so > beautiful in all my life. > > Lois looks at Clark, seeing him in a newfound light. Well, purely from an actor's perspective, the script may well have said (per the globe) and, as Anne pointed out, it was indeed intended that way, however Dean didn't *play* the moment that way... Anne is also right, he chose (artistically, or for whatever other reason) to play that line directly to Lois... and I agree with the rest of you, IMHO it was a beautiful choice for him to have made. He could have gazed up at the globe in wonder and said the exact same thing in just the way the script asked him to... but he didn't. He was lookin' at Lois Lane ;) Gotta love that man. *sigh* Demi demona@shaw.wave.ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:13:02 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: PROMO: S6, episode 5, "Hypergirl" In-Reply-To: <36BE9537.EED7C418@uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anne wrote: >> >LOL!!! >> > >> >I can just see this promo running on TV!!! LOL! I have to admit, of all the promos I've done for S6, this one had me grinning the most. I said the same thing -- Too bad we don't have the actors so we could film this promo for TV!! I kept laughing everytime I pictured it. (And trust me, everyone, Crystal's episode does not disappoint -- definitely an outstanding, fun story. :)) Then Jenny asked: >> ok, but who's going to play Laura? Oooo, good question. Um, Emmy all grown up? Kathy (who has been scouting around for an actress to "play" a character in her own episode set to air in April, but thank goodness we aren't really filming these. It's hard enough to come up with L&C pictures let alone "guess star" ones. ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com http://userweb.springnet1.com/kathyb/ KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:19:57 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Georgia E. Walden" Subject: Re: Query from 'House of Luthor' In-Reply-To: <107c0347.36bf448d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:09 PM 2/8/99 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 2/8/99 5:47:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, >ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK writes: > ><< At the end, when Lois and Clark are talking outside the Planet, which > of them says (ostensibly about the globe) 'I've never seen anything > so beautiful in my life' and who then replies 'I was just thinking > the same thing'. I think it was Lois, then Clark replied, but can't > remember. >> Anne replied: >I remember it as Lois saying it first looking at the globe, then Clark >replying meaning Lois (but that's the romantic in me ) then quoted the script, which is the same version I have, which says that Clark is looking at the globe when he makes the first statement. But if you watch the tape carefully and pay attention to the facial expressions (as we romantics always do ) it's pretty obvious that it's Lois he's talking about. The globe is out in the street, Clark is leaning against one of the pillars and is looking across the area to where Lois is standing. The intent of the script may have been to be more ambiguous, but the way the scene is shot and played, it looks to me like Clark wants Lois to take his statement as a personal one, but isn't quite brave enough to come right out and say it. Lois is encouraged enough by his words to initiate a conversation about the very emotional events that have occurred. Anyway, it's another example of how scripts are great and useful, but they're no subsitute for what's on the screen.;) Georgia > gwalde14@mindspring.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:23:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Georgia E. Walden" Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990208152349.0071ae34@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:23 PM 2/8/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Well, purely from an actor's perspective, the script may well have said >(per the globe) and, as Anne pointed out, it was indeed intended that way, >however Dean didn't *play* the moment that way... Anne is also right, he >chose (artistically, or for whatever other reason) to play that line >directly to Lois... and I agree with the rest of you, IMHO it was a >beautiful choice for him to have made. Oops. I sent my comments about this scene before getting Demi's message, or I wouldn't have bothered. This is exactly what I meant, though, and it's nice to know that we weren't imagining what we saw. It wasn't the first time and it wouldn't be the last that Dean and/or Teri brought a romantic warmth to scenes that could have been played in very different ways. Georgia gwalde14@mindspring.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:51:47 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rachel TenHaaf Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain >HI! I'm new to the list, but I had to write this. Teri and Dean are great aren't they? Okay, I'm an obsessed fan. Rachel >At 03:23 PM 2/8/99 -0500, you wrote: >> >>Well, purely from an actor's perspective, the script may well have said >>(per the globe) and, as Anne pointed out, it was indeed intended that way, >>however Dean didn't *play* the moment that way... Anne is also right, he >>chose (artistically, or for whatever other reason) to play that line >>directly to Lois... and I agree with the rest of you, IMHO it was a >>beautiful choice for him to have made. > >Oops. I sent my comments about this scene before getting Demi's message, >or I wouldn't have bothered. This is exactly what I meant, though, and >it's nice to know that we weren't imagining what we saw. It wasn't the >first time and it wouldn't be the last that Dean and/or Teri brought a >romantic warmth to scenes that could have been played in very different ways. > >Georgia > > >gwalde14@mindspring.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:17:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Donna Lehman <102262.2435@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: Futuresport MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I recently purchased a book and it had the Gold Shield on it. (paperback)= I ordered it through a local bookstore. When I got it I was so disappointed= because the picture was not on the front. But I kinda enjoyed the story, but it definitely was not OUR Lois and Clark. I am going to make my own steam picture from my downloads and put it on myself!! Donna ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:26:32 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Always keep your bowler on in times of stress and watch out for diabolical masterminds." Subject: Re: PROMO: S6, episode 5, "Hypergirl" << Kathy (who has been scouting around for an actress to "play" a character in her own episode set to air in April, but thank goodness we aren't really filming these. It's hard enough to come up with L&C pictures let alone "guess star" ones. ) >> I know it's probably tough to find the pictures (especially now that Laura is born since I'm sure there aren't any/many screen captures with either Lois or Clark holding a baby), but don't stop looking! I usually read the S6 episodes via e-mail but I always check the web site to see who's starring in this week's episode. :) The pictures just enhance the whole S6 experience. :) -Christy (who was just wondering when the next S6 episode was due out and, what a surprise, it's on my birthday! what a nice present! :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:27:41 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lansbury 1 Subject: Re: PROMO: S6, episode 5, "Hypergirl" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Kathy, That was marvelous. If you where working for ABC Lois and Clark still would be on the air. Annie ;) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:39:48 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy N Sowell Subject: Re: PROMO: S6, episode 5, "Hypergirl" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii <***-Christy (who was just wondering when the next S6 episode was due out and, what a surprise, it's on my birthday! what a nice present! :)***> I agree Christy. I was wondering the same thing this morning before I checked my e-mail. I too was glad to see that it is due this weekend. My birthday is on Saturday! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:04:51 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rachel TenHaaf Subject: Re: PROMO: S6, episode 5, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain >Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:39:48 -0500 >Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" > >From: Joy N Sowell >Subject: Re: PROMO: S6, episode 5, "Hypergirl" >To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU > ><***-Christy (who was just wondering when the next S6 episode was due out >and, what >a surprise, it's on my birthday! what a nice present! :)***> > I agree Christy. I was wondering the same thing this morning before >I checked my e-mail. I too was glad to see that it is due this weekend. >My birthday is on Saturday! So many birthdays in February! Congrats to everybody. It must be a nice month to have a birthday. Mine is in October adn it gets forgotten among all the back to school hype. Rachel ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:42:45 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Dennis A Arendt Subject: Best Men MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to the video dealer that i always work with........Best Men's due date is 3/23!!!!!!!! Brenda ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:34:58 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Kerths Nominations Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'm working on them. Got the list will send my nominies out the end of this week, I promise. Will try to finish before Saturday but if not Saturday for sure. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:46:46 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990208152349.0071ae34@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I don't disagree with you Demi, about lovin' that man, but I have 2 cents worth to add to this discussion. It may well have been Dean's idea to say the line that way or look at her that way, but IMHO, it was filmed that way on purpose and was meant to take advantage of an otherwise hidden double entendre type of romantic moment. In this case, as in many others, it is the director's (and the film editor's) job to make it look that way. Dean could have been looking in that general direction, but the director made sure the camera angle and later editing reflected the moment the way we see it, which is that CK is really admiring LL. In live performance, one can very carefully and occasionally (not too often, or you are not hired back!) go against one's directors wishes (I have gotten away with this kind of thing, adding comic touches, during comic operas) but not on film. TV programs are the product of a team effort. Perhaps it is because Dean is so good at this very kind of scene that it ended up appearing that way, even though it is not specified in the script. Babble mode reset in the off position now! Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >At 03:09 PM 2/8/99 EST, you wrote: >>I remember it as Lois saying it first looking at the globe, then Clark >>replying meaning Lois (but that's the romantic in me ) >> Lois and Clark are left alone. >> >> CLARK >> (per the globe) >> I've never seen anything so >> beautiful in all my life. >> >> Lois looks at Clark, seeing him in a newfound light. > >Well, purely from an actor's perspective, the script may well have said >(per the globe) and, as Anne pointed out, it was indeed intended that way, >however Dean didn't *play* the moment that way... Anne is also right, he >chose (artistically, or for whatever other reason) to play that line >directly to Lois... and I agree with the rest of you, IMHO it was a >beautiful choice for him to have made. > >He could have gazed up at the globe in wonder and said the exact same thing >in just the way the script asked him to... but he didn't. He was lookin' at >Lois Lane ;) Gotta love that man. > >*sigh* > >Demi >demona@shaw.wave.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:07:41 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Annette Ciotola Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/9/99 12:32:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU writes: << It may well have been Dean's idea to say the line that way or look at her that way, but IMHO, it was filmed that way on purpose and was meant to take advantage of an otherwise hidden double entendre type of romantic moment. In this case, as in many others, it is the director's (and the film editor's) job to make it look that way. Dean could have been looking in that general direction, but the director made sure the camera angle and later editing reflected the moment the way we see it, which is that CK is really admiring LL. >> Well, I am going to have to disagree. The director may have been the one to capture it just right, but I think Dean had a lot to do with it. Give the man credit, already. You can argue and debate every minute point to every second of that show, but one thing you can't tell me is that a director was the one to portray how Dean delivered his line just by making sure he had the camera angle just right. What Dean and Teri did for that show to me, is priceless. The way they delivered every line or they way they added that something extra that they felt just worked (like the "Hug" at the end of IR 7:01, 7:02, ect .. or the way Dean lifted Teri at the end of Brutal Youth.) But then again I guess we got all those "GTO's" by the way the director just seemed to zoom in and catch them at the right time, huh? ;) I am not in the business, not an actor, not a director and I wouldn't know the first thing when it comes to what actually goes into to what made Lois & Clark the show I fell in love with. But if you want this girl's opinion? I think Teri and Dean were the ones that had a leetle more to with what we saw on the screen and how they portrayed their characters or delivered their lines. I think there's a thread going on over on Demi's site about how hard Teri was to work with and there is a post that actually gives the point I'm trying to make. It was Demi who actually said it and I'm going to quote her here. (Sorry Demi :) "Teri and Dean were two actors who knew their TV characters better than anyone else alive (except perhaps a few FoLCs whom we all know) ... They played the same people 6 days a week and lets face it...ultimately, if they said "Clark/Lois wouldn't do things this way .." or "this doesn't sound right." or "Clark/Lois wouldn't say that" then the director/producer(s) et al., would have been foolish not to listen to their advice, and it was perfectly within their right as actors to insist that their words be taken seriously, in that respect." Not that I am trying to take anything away from the director (and I am sure Demi's not either) but the glances, the more meaningful looks and the simple touching is more Dean and Teri then how the director caught it all on camera And to me? The greater the detail that is nitpicked the less enjoyment I get out of it. So I am going to keep on believing that Dean was the one to imply that to Clark, he's "never seen anything so beautiful" that Lois Lane. Anne :) (who hopes she made sense, but if not someone will point it out ) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:30:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... In-Reply-To: <3b9f3f3c.36c0b1ad@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anne: Okay, I think we can agree to disagree:) However, I agreed with much of what you said. I also believe I give credit to Dean a lot in my ep thoughts which I know some people think are just nitpick fests:( I love Dean, in case nobody noticed. I have no desire to steal his thunder, take credit away from him or in any way criticize him, as it must seem to some people that I do. Did I not recently go on record saying I was completely gone on him and have been for months? It so happens that I agree very much with what you said Dean and Teri brought to their characters, which I believe they played every day for a continuous shooting schedule of 176 days in a row for four years, or something very close to that which I garnered from Dean interviews. I would also love to subscribe to Demi's list so I can read that discussion because it sounds fascinating. If my experiences in opera production have not been useful, I apologize. Opera is a very different world from TV production and I don't pretend to know what Zoom knows about TV or anyone else may know about theater or the movies. I only know that even the lead in a production does not have the only say on how things are filmed, presented or produced. If it was Dean's idea, more power to him:) Dean was interviewed at some point and asked about how much input he had. He mentioned that he had a lot to say about how episodes he wrote were filmed. I also understand that Zoom has a treasure trove of stories, some of which I probably have not heard yet, about how Dean or Teri (or both) had ideas that made it to the screen. That's fabulous. There was lots of talk on the Sci-Fi channel about these aspects in Classic Trek. Smart TV directors don't try to influence character too widely from the norm, or they cannot be relied upon to get the ep into the series properly, and they are not hired back. Actually there is a very famous story about what happened when a particular script writer tried to present his own very different view of Trek, which was altered to fit into the Trek reality and then went on to win a sci-fi award for the original story. It is a creative team process, is all I was trying to say:) Okay, now that I have missed L&C two days in a row because I had to work late, I am going to shush and go home now:) Goodnight:) Carolyn >In a message dated 2/9/99 12:32:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, >cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU writes: > ><< It may well have been Dean's idea to say the line that way or look at her > that way, but IMHO, it was filmed that way on purpose and was meant to take > advantage of an otherwise hidden double entendre type of romantic moment. > In this case, as in many others, it is the director's (and the film > editor's) job to make it look that way. Dean could have been looking in > that general direction, but the director made sure the camera angle and > later editing reflected the moment the way we see it, which is that CK is > really admiring LL. >> > >Well, I am going to have to disagree. The director may have been the one to >capture it just right, but I think Dean had a lot to do with it. Give the man >credit, already. > >You can argue and debate every minute point to every second of that show, but >one thing you can't tell me is that a director was the one to portray how Dean >delivered his line just by making sure he had the camera angle just right. > >What Dean and Teri did for that show to me, is priceless. The way they >delivered every line or they way they added that something extra that they >felt just worked (like the "Hug" at the end of IR 7:01, 7:02, ect .. or the >way Dean lifted Teri at the end of Brutal Youth.) But then again I guess we >got all those "GTO's" by the way the director just seemed to zoom in and catch >them at the right time, huh? ;) > >I am not in the business, not an actor, not a director and I wouldn't know the >first thing when it comes to what actually goes into to what made Lois & Clark >the show I fell in love with. But if you want this girl's opinion? I think >Teri and Dean were the ones that had a leetle more to with what we saw on the >screen and how they portrayed their characters or delivered their lines. > >I think there's a thread going on over on Demi's site about how hard Teri was >to work with and there is a post that actually gives the point I'm trying to >make. It was Demi who actually said it and I'm going to quote her here. (Sorry >Demi :) > >"Teri and Dean were two actors who knew their TV characters better than anyone >else alive (except perhaps a few FoLCs whom we all know) ... They played the >same people 6 days a week and lets face it...ultimately, if they said >"Clark/Lois wouldn't do things this way .." or "this doesn't sound right." or >"Clark/Lois wouldn't say that" then the director/producer(s) et al., would >have been foolish not to listen to their advice, and it was perfectly within >their right as actors to insist that their words be taken seriously, in that >respect." > >Not that I am trying to take anything away from the director (and I am sure >Demi's not either) but the glances, the more meaningful looks and the simple >touching is more Dean and Teri then how the director caught it all on camera > >And to me? The greater the detail that is nitpicked the less enjoyment I get >out of it. So I am going to keep on believing that Dean was the one to imply >that to Clark, he's "never seen anything so beautiful" that Lois Lane. > >Anne :) >(who hopes she made sense, but if not someone will point it out ) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:10:25 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: OT: Any clues... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Any clues why I can't seem to get a message through on to LOISCLA... ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... Deferred: Connection timed out with vm.ege.edu.tr. Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue Reporting-MTA: dns; kitsune.swcp.com Arrival-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 04:49:04 -0700 (MST) and others like this, with different dates. but I'm getting mail from the list? Especially the wonderful thoughts and observations of Carolyn S? (On from her most recently dated Feb. 9th) I've even queried and subbed... but nothing. I've been on that list since 9/94 and this has never happened. Have I pissed someone off? Hmm... ;) Is anyone else having problems? Debby Debby@swcp.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:23:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: marycudmore Subject: Re: OT: Any clues... In-Reply-To: <199902100008.RAA06421@kitsune.swcp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:10 PM 2/9/99 -0700, you wrote: >Any clues why I can't seem to get a message through on to LOISCLA... >but I'm getting mail from the list? Especially the wonderful thoughts and >observations of Carolyn S? (On from her most recently dated Feb. 9th) I've >even queried and subbed... but nothing. I've been on that list since 9/94 >and this has never happened. Have I pissed someone off? Hmm... ;) Is >anyone else having problems? Debbie, I am not getting messages from the list and when I go to Zoomway's site it says the list is down. It has said that for weeks, maybe even a month or more. I must have pissed them off worse than you because at least you get postings. I send something last week and it came back. If you find out more, let me know. Mary C. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:24:57 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:30 PM 2/9/99 -0500, Carolyn Schnall wrote: >It is a >creative team process, is all I was trying to say:) > I understand what you were trying to say, Carolyn. Had Dean and Teri been in the same shot, there'd've been no question but that the object of "I've never seen anything so beautiful" being Lois was Dean's choice. However, since it was a one-shot (i.e. Dean was the only actor in the scene) and depended on the cutaway to Lois--instead of the Daily Planet globe--for the impact, the director and film editor had as much to do with the final effect as Dean did. However, Dean certainly seemed to me to have a more yearning, romantic expression than would have been appropriate toward the D.P. Globe, so I definitely think that he had chosen to read the line that way, and the director agreed with his choice. After spending a week watching a one-hour drama being filmed, the one thing I found most interesting was that the directors (I saw parts of two eps, each with a different director) really didn't tell the stars how to do *anything*. They made suggestions, but they pretty much let the actors decide how they wanted to handle it--because the actors knew their characters better than anyone, especially better than a director who came in for eight days of shooting. So I have no difficulty believing that Dean chose to play the "I've never seen anything so beautiful" the way it came across on the screen, but I also know that the director had to buy into it or it wouldn't have appeared that way on-screen. (Remember, the director is editing the ep together while the stars are working on the next eps.) Sheila sharper@cncc.cc.co.us ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:39:45 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: marycudmore Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:30 PM 2/9/99 -0500, you wrote: >Anne: >>I would also love to subscribe to Demi's list so I can read that discussion >because it sounds fascinating. Please send me in the direction of Demi's list. Any help appreciated. I so enjoy the discussions that surround our favorite couple. Thanks to all who discuss. Mary C. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:22:06 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Annette Ciotola Subject: Demi's MBs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit It not a separate list, but another set of Message Boards. You can get to them through her awesome site at: http://destinyy.com/lcfantasy/ Anne :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:40:40 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Genine Murray Subject: Re: OT: Any clues... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/9/99 9:03:51 PM EST, mcudmore@NYCAP.RR.COM writes: << At 05:10 PM 2/9/99 -0700, you wrote: >Any clues why I can't seem to get a message through on to LOISCLA... >but I'm getting mail from the list? Especially the wonderful thoughts and >observations of Carolyn S? (On from her most recently dated Feb. 9th) I've >even queried and subbed... but nothing. I've been on that list since 9/94 >and this has never happened. Have I pissed someone off? Hmm... ;) Is >anyone else having problems? Debbie, I am not getting messages from the list and when I go to Zoomway's site it says the list is down. It has said that for weeks, maybe even a month or more. I must have pissed them off worse than you because at least you get postings. I send something last week and it came back. If you find out more, let me know. Mary C. >> Debby, Mary, and the rest of the FoLCs, I have also been having troubles with LOISCLA lately. I am getting *plenty* of posts, no doubt about that. In fact I have to delete many of them just to keep up lately. However I sent one message out *3* different times before it finally made it onto the list *once*. I don't know what is wrong but it is really frustrating, and it does seem to be a problem for more than one of us. And here I thought it was just me ... I hope they get it straightened out soon so no one else has to be frustrated by this problem. Genine =o) SuperGem4@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:57:21 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Anne Simmonds Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Hello everyone!!!! Just a small question.... What does IMHO mean. Am I missing something? Thanks in advance, Anne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:30:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Another 'Demi Opus' (was: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ...) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Wow, it's wonderful to be able to write another book on LOISCLA. It's been a while, but I love it when I can't shut up..! LOL Lucky for the rest of you, there's always that 'delete' key. ;) At 12:46 PM 09/02/99 -0500, Carolyn wrote: >I don't disagree with you Demi, about lovin' that man, but I have 2 cents >worth to add to this discussion. >It may well have been Dean's idea to say the line that way or look at her >that way, but IMHO, it was filmed that way on purpose and was meant to take >advantage of an otherwise hidden double entendre type of romantic moment. >In this case, as in many others, it is the director's (and the film >editor's) job to make it look that way. I don't think you're disagreeing with me Carolyn :) Just extrapolating on what I'd said. Very definitely the director had to shoot the scene differently than scripted in order for us to have experienced Clark looking at Lois (and not the globe). Actually, it didn't even occur to me to qualify my comment, because I think I probably just made the assumption and not thought more about it, which I suppose may have been testament to my having made the post in a rush. (I usually write a novel when it comes to posting on these kinds of topics!) ;) However, I do believe that it was in fact Dean's idea, and not the director's; Dean who asked for the change, and who got what he asked for _from_ the director. That's my opinion, in this instance, at least. Many times during the run of the series Dean and/or Teri made changes to their scripting, in small ways creating moments which most FoLCs have come to adore. Things like Lois cleaning up spilled champagne with her foot in The Phoenix, or the addition of her "7:01, 7:01.." monologue (the one where Teri puts her arms around Dean's neck ;) -- things which meant so much in retrospect, and were definitely the actor's suggestions. Ultimately the creative process is accomplished by the contributions of everyone involved, the director, the actors, the technical crew and supporting staff, that's a given, I would never dispute that, however the director changed with almost every episode of the filming of L&C, (which is normal for most television we see now-a-days) and both Dean and Teri were adamant that they were the ones who knew their characters best. I know it's been mentioned more than once that each of them stood behind their decisions and choices, whether the director always agreed or not. (Teri was castigated over that perhaps more often than Dean, however ;) In any event, Dean and Teri remained constants in that the characters they created (as actors) were guarded and nurtured by them. They were always offering artistic suggestions, and were very often consulted with regards to the scripting of the episodes. :) <> I hold my degree in Theatre and Film, more specifically live performance direction. ;) To my mind, (I agree with Carolyn that) the collaborative process is one which is indeed at the heart of all that is Theatre, as it should be. Television is likewise a collaboration of talented minds, however, with television, I feel that we're looking at a crankier, somewhat less "Director-God" oriented medium than the stage is; for the very reason that directors come and go on most TV series, leaving only the actors and (some) of the writers and technical staff behind who live and breathe the series six days a week. I have actually posted about this before, so at the risk of sounding repetitive, I'm going to take and paraphrase some of my own words from another time. It's been years anyway.. so perhaps no one will remember! (ulp ;) When you direct television many of your greatest concerns are often nit-picky technicalities which live performance either doesn't see, or has a tremendous amount more time to iron out. Due to the reactively short period of time a director is granted to put out a television episode, those types of concerns often end up taking up more time than s/he would find themselves able to devote to artistic decisions regarding characterization (for example). In the end, it truly is the actors who (being on set and in character day after day, year after year) know and desire control over those more intimate details in any event. It's a symbiotic relationship which I think works out for the best most often, as well. ;) This is not to say that directors are not creative at all, its *amazing* the kind of difference you can see between two different people's directing style, in *any* medium, television being no exception. How a director cuts the show when its in the can is also an indication of his/her ability. Details such as how fast the episode appears to move, the angles from which the shots are taken (as Carolyn mentioned :), the clever ways in which the master shots are done.. all these and more are the hand of the director at play. So there *is* room for creativity, but (due to time constraints) not very much room for the kind of individualistic attention to character specific artistic decisions which directors can get away with in theatre and in feature films. TV Directors do offer suggestions to the actors about those things from time to time, but... it's not the same as it is for film (And as any director who ever gave Teri Hatcher a character note might attest to, it's also a potentially life threatening experience ). The difference in role between a TV and a Film (or Theatre) director is also the reason why --IMHO-- many actors tend to go on to direct, not so much for television, as for feature films -- they crave *artistic* control over things such as characterization and moment-to-moment narrative, things they've always wished they had 100% of the time in other venues. Television direction doesn't always grant a director that luxury. ;) Back on the subject of changing the focus (or direction) of even one line, I can never get over how incredible it can be when the object of control or power in a scene shifts from one person, or object to something/someone else completely, it can alter the entire scope of a scene, in just the way I think Dean did when uttered that (now famous) phrase "I've never seen anything more beautiful in my entire life". (And the globe blushed ;) That one tiny difference can mean everything. Something else I mentioned years ago (and this very much backs up what Carolyn was mentioning regarding team work on a production, whether for the screen or the stage.:) I actually saw one particular play, twice, which involved two people who were having a discussion about the fact that neither one wanted *anything* to do with the other. Both were simultaneously angry and hurt because they had broken up with their own respective lovers, (not each other). The first time I saw the play, they were arguing and very emotionally upset with one another, as the script suggested for them to be, and then they left (next scene). The next time I saw this same play, done by a different director, and with a different cast, this very same scene was transformed. While having the same heated discussion and debate, both were frantically undressing one another, until, in the end, well, I think you can guess. So *how* lines are interpreted by the actors and directors (even in TV, just as much as in any other performance medium) is indeed extremely important. Teri (I like using Teri in my examples, she's great at vocally challenging authority ;) would say in interviews often that she would usually hold her ground about some blocking detail or some emotion she felt she should keep -- even when the director wanted it out. She said she did that becayse Lois was 'her baby', and she felt she knew her best. It's difficult to hold her at fault for that assumption. I happen to agree with her! :) She may not have been able to write out major details like...the break up in Contact, but, even as an actor, she *could* completely change the way her viewers felt about a scene. Dean had that same ability, and used it just as well, IMHO. THAT is definitely power. ;) Take Care All :) Demi (who knows she wrote another book.. I'll apologize later, I'm all out of ink! ;) ___________________________________________ Demi aka Demona demona@shaw.wave.ca http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/ "Free your heart from your mind. Embrace wonder for one moment without the need to consider how that wonder came to be, without the need to justify if it be real or not." - Charles de Lint ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:24:02 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: Re: OT: Any clues... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:40 PM 2/9/1999 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 2/9/99 9:03:51 PM EST, mcudmore@NYCAP.RR.COM writes: > Debbie, > I am not getting messages from the list and when I go to Zoomway's site it > says the list is down. It has said that for weeks, maybe even a month or > more. I must have pissed them off worse than you because at least you get > postings. I send something last week and it came back. If you find out > more, let me know. > > Mary C. >> > >Debby, Mary, and the rest of the FoLCs, > >I have also been having troubles with LOISCLA lately. I am getting *plenty* >of posts, no doubt about that. In fact I have to delete many of them just to >keep up lately. However I sent one message out *3* different times before it >finally made it onto the list *once*. I don't know what is wrong but it is >really frustrating, and it does seem to be a problem for more than one of us. >And here I thought it was just me ... I hope they get it straightened out >soon so no one else has to be frustrated by this problem. > >Genine =o) >SuperGem4@aol.com Perhaps we should all link arms and sing... "our arms are linked and we won't write fanfic until..." nah... Well, I'm glad *this* list is cooperating :D Debby Debby@swcp.com not alone any more... ;) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:48:41 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LLOYD RALSTON Subject: a small addition to my unfinished fic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I haven't gotten a chance to revise it yet, but this small part probably doesn't need it. -- CC -- ~*~ Lois finally, somehow managed to get home, how she did not know, for she was in a dazed state as she shut her apartment door behind her. Not knowing what to do, she simply collasped on the couch with a tub of chocolate icecream and stared at the dark screen of the TV blankly. Perry had phoned Lois's sister, Lucy, in hopes that she could help; she said she'd get their as soon as possible. They hadn't managed to get a sensible word out of Lois ever since they got her in the car. She just simply broke down and didn't move once. Her face had lost its color, it seemed as if her very soul had been ripped harshly away from her and they were left with this empty shell of a person. Lois noticed a picture of Clark sitting on top of the TV. She reached for it with shaking hands unable to control her emotions anymore, and brushed a fingertip across his beautiful, smiling face and broke down once more into an unrecognizable, sobbing mess. "Clark! Oh, God, Clark!" She flung herself down on her couch and burried her tear and make-up streaked face into a pillow and became further a shaking, emotional wreck. Elroy, who had never seen Lois this way, sensed that she need some solace but even purrs and cat warmth couldn't sooth Lois in anyway. He stayed by her side though diligently, until she finally fell into an unrestful sleep. When she woke it was dark. She felt a cover around her shoulders, and she wondered how it got there. Her icecream had also disappeared back to the fridge no doubt. Someone must have came by, maybe, could it be? Clark? Her hopes rose suddenly and a little bit of color returned to her so pale of a face. It has to be! He's returned to say that he wants another chance, that we meant to be together! Lois heard breathing coming from the bedroom and she smiled. Clark must be in there! She walked on silent feet to her bedroom, and flipped on the light. But her face fell as she saw who was there. "Lucy?" ~*~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:09:10 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy N Sowell Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii <***Hello everyone!!!! Just a small question.... What does IMHO mean. Am I missing something? Thanks in advance, Anne***> I think it means, In My Humble Opinion ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:17:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy N Sowell Subject: Re: a small addition to my unfinished fic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lloyd, What can I say but Keep it coming!!! Great job. I look forward to the next installment. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:30:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: fchisham Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... In-Reply-To: <85256714.0048D33D.00@MetMtaG2.metlife.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I thought it was "In my _honest_ opinion". I guess both would be appropriate. On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Joy N Sowell wrote: > <***Hello everyone!!!! > > Just a small question.... What does IMHO mean. Am I missing something? > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:33:23 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Anne Simmonds Subject: Re: Rolling on What? (was Re: Kerth commercials) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Joy wrote: >ROTFL??? I know I'm new, but could someone explain this please? Thanks!! >JOY:) This means Rolling on the floor laughing.... Its just a way to let you know that were laughing...kinds like Hope that was helpful!!! Anne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:39:12 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: a small addition to my unfinished fic In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990210054841.007f2770@ldd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" CC, Glad that you are continuing to post sections of your fanfic as you get them written. One suggestion -- please include a synopsis of what has happened already in the story when you post a new part, especially if they aren't going to be posted regularly. With the amount of fanfic that I read, it's hard for me to keep them all straight. A title is very helpful, but a summary of what story it is this scene fits into would go a long way towards eliminating that blank stare I got when reading your scene. ;) Keep posting, Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com http://userweb.springnet1.com/kathyb/ KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:47:49 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: OT: Any clues... In-Reply-To: <199902100008.RAA06421@kitsune.swcp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Debby: Just wanted to thank you for thinking so highly of my efforts:) You made my day! So, I am not PO'd, that's for sure The sytem seemed to go down just before the weekend but seems up again. I posted something on 2/8 and again today in addition to replies to other stuff. Thanks to the 20th power:), Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >Any clues why I can't seem to get a message through on to LOISCLA... > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... Deferred: Connection timed out with >vm.ege.edu.tr. > Message could not be delivered for 5 days > Message will be deleted from queue > Reporting-MTA: dns; kitsune.swcp.com > Arrival-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 04:49:04 -0700 (MST) > >and others like this, with different dates. > >but I'm getting mail from the list? Especially the wonderful thoughts and >observations of Carolyn S? (On from her most recently dated Feb. 9th) I've >even queried and subbed... but nothing. I've been on that list since 9/94 >and this has never happened. Have I pissed someone off? Hmm... ;) Is >anyone else having problems? > >Debby >Debby@swcp.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:50:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ... In-Reply-To: <36C052A300000416@cncc.cncc.cc.co.us> (added by cncc.cncc.cc.co.us) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Sheila: I appreciate your enlightening us with your experience, which is different >from mine, and therefore very educational. I am always glad to be understood:) Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >At 06:30 PM 2/9/99 -0500, Carolyn Schnall wrote: >>It is a >>creative team process, is all I was trying to say:) >> >I understand what you were trying to say, Carolyn. Had Dean and Teri been >in the same shot, there'd've been no question but that the object of "I've >never seen anything so beautiful" being Lois was Dean's choice. However, >since it was a one-shot (i.e. Dean was the only actor in the scene) and >depended on the cutaway to Lois--instead of the Daily Planet globe--for the >impact, the director and film editor had as much to do with the final effect >as Dean did. However, Dean certainly seemed to me to have a more yearning, >romantic expression than would have been appropriate toward the D.P. Globe, >so I definitely think that he had chosen to read the line that way, and the >director agreed with his choice. > >After spending a week watching a one-hour drama being filmed, the one thing >I found most interesting was that the directors (I saw parts of two eps, >each with a different director) really didn't tell the stars how to do >*anything*. They made suggestions, but they pretty much let the actors >decide how they wanted to handle it--because the actors knew their >characters better than anyone, especially better than a director who came in >for eight days of shooting. So I have no difficulty believing that Dean >chose to play the "I've never seen anything so beautiful" the way it came >across on the screen, but I also know that the director had to buy into it >or it wouldn't have appeared that way on-screen. (Remember, the director is >editing the ep together while the stars are working on the next eps.) > >Sheila >sharper@cncc.cc.co.us ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:13:49 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: Another 'Demi Opus' (was: Re: I've never seen anything so beautiful ...) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990209223022.009fa290@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Demi: It was wonderful reading your book, especially since we seemed to be writing on the same theme! Mine was just a short story, though:) I am especially glad because of your experience and I found it enlightening Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >Wow, it's wonderful to be able to write another book on LOISCLA. It's been >a while, but I love it when I can't shut up..! LOL Lucky for the rest of >you, there's always that 'delete' key. ;) > >At 12:46 PM 09/02/99 -0500, Carolyn wrote: >>I don't disagree with you Demi, about lovin' that man, but I have 2 cents >>worth to add to this discussion. >>It may well have been Dean's idea to say the line that way or look at her >>that way, but IMHO, it was filmed that way on purpose and was meant to take >>advantage of an otherwise hidden double entendre type of romantic moment. >>In this case, as in many others, it is the director's (and the film >>editor's) job to make it look that way. > >I don't think you're disagreeing with me Carolyn :) Just extrapolating on >what I'd said. Very definitely the director had to shoot the scene >differently than scripted in order for us to have experienced Clark looking >at Lois (and not the globe). Actually, it didn't even occur to me to >qualify my comment, because I think I probably just made the assumption and >not thought more about it, which I suppose may have been testament to my >having made the post in a rush. (I usually write a novel when it comes to >posting on these kinds of topics!) ;) > >However, I do believe that it was in fact Dean's idea, and not the >director's; Dean who asked for the change, and who got what he asked for >_from_ the director. That's my opinion, in this instance, at least. > >Many times during the run of the series Dean and/or Teri made changes to >their scripting, in small ways creating moments which most FoLCs have come >to adore. Things like Lois cleaning up spilled champagne with her foot in >The Phoenix, or the addition of her "7:01, 7:01.." monologue (the one where >Teri puts her arms around Dean's neck ;) -- things which meant so much in >retrospect, and were definitely the actor's suggestions. > >Ultimately the creative process is accomplished by the contributions of >everyone involved, the director, the actors, the technical crew and >supporting staff, that's a given, I would never dispute that, however the >director changed with almost every episode of the filming of L&C, (which is >normal for most television we see now-a-days) and both Dean and Teri were >adamant that they were the ones who knew their characters best. > >I know it's been mentioned more than once that each of them stood behind >their decisions and choices, whether the director always agreed or not. >(Teri was castigated over that perhaps more often than Dean, however ;) In >any event, Dean and Teri remained constants in that the characters they >created (as actors) were guarded and nurtured by them. They were always >offering artistic suggestions, and were very often consulted with regards >to the scripting of the episodes. :) > ><often, or you are not hired back!) go against one's directors wishes (I >have gotten away with this kind of thing, adding comic touches, during >comic operas) but not on film. TV programs are the product of a team >effort. Perhaps it is because Dean is so good at this very kind of scene >that it ended up appearing that way, even though it is not specified in the >script.>> > >I hold my degree in Theatre and Film, more specifically live performance >direction. ;) To my mind, (I agree with Carolyn that) the collaborative >process is one which is indeed at the heart of all that is Theatre, as it >should be. Television is likewise a collaboration of talented minds, >however, with television, I feel that we're looking at a crankier, somewhat >less "Director-God" oriented medium than the stage is; for the very reason >that directors come and go on most TV series, leaving only the actors and >(some) of the writers and technical staff behind who live and breathe the >series six days a week. > >I have actually posted about this before, so at the risk of sounding >repetitive, I'm going to take and paraphrase some of my own words from >another time. It's been years anyway.. so perhaps no one will remember! >(ulp ;) > >When you direct television many of your greatest concerns are often >nit-picky technicalities which live performance either doesn't see, or has >a tremendous amount more time to iron out. Due to the reactively short >period of time a director is granted to put out a television episode, those >types of concerns often end up taking up more time than s/he would find >themselves able to devote to artistic decisions regarding characterization >(for example). In the end, it truly is the actors who (being on set and in >character day after day, year after year) know and desire control over >those more intimate details in any event. It's a symbiotic relationship >which I think works out for the best most often, as well. ;) > >This is not to say that directors are not creative at all, its *amazing* >the kind of difference you can see between two different people's directing >style, in *any* medium, television being no exception. How a director cuts >the show when its in the can is also an indication of his/her ability. >Details such as how fast the episode appears to move, the angles from which >the shots are taken (as Carolyn mentioned :), the clever ways in which the >master shots are done.. all these and more are the hand of the director at >play. So there *is* room for creativity, but (due to time constraints) not >very much room for the kind of individualistic attention to character >specific artistic decisions which directors can get away with in theatre >and in feature films. TV Directors do offer suggestions to the actors >about those things from time to time, but... it's not the same as it is for >film (And as any director who ever gave Teri Hatcher a character note might >attest to, it's also a potentially life threatening experience ). >The difference in role between a TV and a Film (or Theatre) director is >also the reason why --IMHO-- many actors tend to go on to direct, not so >much for television, as for feature films -- they crave *artistic* control >over things such as characterization and moment-to-moment narrative, things >they've always wished they had 100% of the time in other venues. >Television direction doesn't always grant a director that luxury. ;) > >Back on the subject of changing the focus (or direction) of even one line, >I can never get over how incredible it can be when the object of control or >power in a scene shifts from one person, or object to something/someone >else completely, it can alter the entire scope of a scene, in just the way >I think Dean did when uttered that (now famous) phrase "I've never seen >anything more beautiful in my entire life". (And the globe blushed ;) > >That one tiny difference can mean everything. Something else I mentioned >years ago (and this very much backs up what Carolyn was mentioning >regarding team work on a production, whether for the screen or the stage.:) > I actually saw one particular play, twice, which involved two people who >were having a discussion about the fact that neither one wanted *anything* >to do with the other. Both were simultaneously angry and hurt because >they had broken up with their own respective lovers, (not each other). The >first time I saw the play, they were arguing and very emotionally upset >with one another, as the script suggested for them to be, and then they >left (next scene). > >The next time I saw this same play, done by a different director, and with >a different cast, this very same scene was transformed. While having the >same heated discussion and debate, both were frantically undressing one >another, until, in the end, well, I think you can guess. So *how* lines >are interpreted by the actors and directors (even in TV, just as much as in >any other performance medium) is indeed extremely important. > >Teri (I like using Teri in my examples, she's great at vocally challenging >authority ;) would say in interviews often that she would usually hold her >ground about some blocking detail or some emotion she felt she should keep >-- even when the director wanted it out. She said she did that becayse >Lois was 'her baby', and she felt she knew her best. It's difficult to >hold her at fault for that assumption. I happen to agree with her! :) She >may not have been able to write out major details like...the break up in >Contact, but, even as an actor, she *could* completely change the way >her viewers felt about a scene. Dean had that same ability, and used it >just as well, IMHO. THAT is definitely power. ;) > >Take Care All :) >Demi >(who knows she wrote another book.. I'll apologize later, I'm all out of >ink! ;) >___________________________________________ >Demi aka Demona > >demona@shaw.wave.ca >http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/ > >"Free your heart from your mind. > Embrace wonder for one moment without > the need to consider how that wonder > came to be, without the need to justify > if it be real or not." >- Charles de Lint ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:46:33 MST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: DEBRA GRAY Subject: Re: PROMO: S6, episode 5, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rachel said <> I hear ya Rachel. Mine is in June (on the first day of summer) and got lost in all the frenzy of schoolyear's end activities, when I was a student. Of course I always went to summer school in college, so I never got a break even on my birthday. And even in high school (I went to boarding school 6 hours from home) I worked all summer, so I never got to be at home for my birthday. Anyhow, happy birthday to the birthday folk, and I'll quit ranting! Debra G. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:10:02 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: OT: Any clues... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/9/99 6:59:07 PM Central Standard Time, debby@SWCP.COM writes: << ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... Deferred: Connection timed out with vm.ege.edu.tr. Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue Reporting-MTA: dns; kitsune.swcp.com Arrival-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 04:49:04 -0700 (MST) >> It means basically what it says, that the transmission timed out. Trearn has an antiquated system in Turkey. There is no one there on the weekends to fix the list if it crashes and so has to be fixed when the Turgut gets back after weekends and holidays. However, since not everyone is receiving this error message, it might only be a few mail servers that are having trouble with Trearn. The easiest and quickest way to find out if you are still subscribed and if LOISCLA is still up and running, is to send the command: QUERY LOISCLA to LISTSERV@vm.ege.edu.tr That command will send you your subscription information. If it takes a looooong time for LISTSERV to reply to that command, then likely it's crashed, or lagged (time delayed). Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you, but I've had the flu for a week. Hopefully things will be back to normal soon. Zoomway@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:16:04 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Always keep your bowler on in times of stress and watch out for diabolical masterminds." Subject: OT: birthday month (was re: PROMO: S6,, episode 5,) <> < I hear ya Rachel. Mine is in June (on the first day of summer) and got lost in all the frenzy of schoolyear's end activities, > I think this is probably a case of "the grass is always greener..." I'm not a fan of February birthdays for two reasons. First, (around where I live at least) February is usually a gray, snowy, cold month and by the time it rolls around everyone is sick of the gray, snowy, and cold they thought exciting when it first appeared in November/December. Also, and I guess this only applies to my own birthday (Valentine's Day), but it's probably one of the most hated days of the year. People who don't have a valentine complain about being alone, and people who *do* have a valentine complain about having to shop for a gift. And I usually complain about being born on the most dreaded day of the year One nice (and, yes, Lois and Clark-related :) thing is that two L&C characters (Jimmy- 15th- and Clark- 28th) have February birthdays. :) We know Lois's birthday is either in September or October, but was Perry's birthday ever revealed? In the first season, Perry experienced a mid-life crisis upon turning fifty in Vatman, which aired Marcy 13. Then in TF the Planet staff was celebrating his birthday and that episode aired on March 26. So Perry's birthday is probably in March, but we never got a date, did we? -Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:31:53 -0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: OT: birthday month (was re: PROMO: S6,, episode 5,) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ><month to have a birthday. Mine is in October adn it gets forgotten among all >the back to school hype.>> > >< I hear ya Rachel. Mine is in June (on the first day of summer) and got lost in >all the frenzy of schoolyear's end activities, > > >I think this is probably a case of "the grass is always greener..." I'm not a >fan of February birthdays for two reasons. First, (around where I live at >least) February is usually a gray, snowy, cold month and by the time it rolls >around everyone is sick of the gray, snowy, and cold they thought exciting when >it first appeared in November/December. Also, and I guess this only applies to >my own birthday (Valentine's Day), but it's probably one of the most hated days >of the year. People who don't have a valentine complain about being alone, and >people who *do* have a valentine complain about having to shop for a gift. And >I usually complain about being born on the most dreaded day of the year > >-Christy LOL! You guys should try 7th January - most people tend to forget it in the midst of the post-Christmas daze. If I had a pound for every belated birthday card I got from my absent minded brother...... Mind you, by this point in time, forgetting it's probably no bad thing. :D LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:42:48 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Donna Burton Subject: Re: OT: birthday month (was re: PROMO: S6,, episode 5,) Perry had his bridge jump noted on his desk calendar. I believe that was on the day of his birthday. Was the date visible? I don't recall. That's where Jimmy spots it and jumps to the wrong conclusion but I don't know if the shot included the pertinent info. Donna in Schenectady burtond@union.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:10:47 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: Re: OT: Any clues... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:10 PM 2/10/1999 -0500, Zoomway wrote: [snip] >The easiest and quickest way to find out if you are still subscribed and if >LOISCLA is still up and running, is to send the command: > >QUERY LOISCLA > >to > >LISTSERV@vm.ege.edu.tr I've done this. It has yet to inform me that it's been 5 days yet... This has been going on for at least 2 weeks now. Fortunately, I'm still getting mail and it's good reading : >That command will send you your subscription information. If it takes a >looooong time for LISTSERV to reply to that command, then likely it's crashed, >or lagged (time delayed). > >Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you, but I've had the flu for a >week. Hopefully things will be back to normal soon. We all hope you are feeling better soon. If it's the flu I had early this winter, it's a doozy. >Zoomway@aol.com Debby Debby@swcp.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:16:09 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: Re: OT: Any clues... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:47 PM 2/10/1999 -0500, Carolyn S (for Super) wrote: >Hi Debby: > >Just wanted to thank you for thinking so highly of my efforts:) > >You made my day! She's worth it, isn't she, readers? Let's have a round of applause for someone I'd vote for for "L&C Fan of the Year" for the great, detailed posts she shares with us. If fanfic writers aren't getting ideas from her... it isn't *her* fault, eh? Applause! Applause! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:22:06 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Liz *<:o)" Subject: Re: a small addition to my unfinished fic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hiya ;) Does anyone have the portions before this one? I remember reading them and saying they were good but I can't remember what it was about :( Thanks ;) Liz ICQ # 23588950 - add me :) SilvrBrwn on IRC SilvrBrwne on AIM - add me :o) Join my LnC list at: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/lnctnaos My LnC site at: http://members.aol.com/SilvrBrwne/page1/index.htm (It's still under construction!) "We are all blinded by that one great love that changes us forever." ~H.G.Wells "Don't let the door hit your @$$ on the way out of my life!" ~ Rita from Silk Stalkings "It's not the years that count, its the moments. Right now,as they happens." ~Clark ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:40:51 -0500 Reply-To: nsa105@psu.edu Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nethra Ankam Subject: out of curiosity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With all this talk of birthdays, I was wondering if Lois' birthday was ever revealed on the show. For some reason, I have this impression in my mind that Lois had a surprise b-day party or turned down a surprise b-day party....but I can't rememeber the ep, which makes me think I'm thinking of a fanfic....what was my question again? :) Thanks, Nethra who thanks all the people out there who write novels, books, opuses, and short stories ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:27:06 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: out of curiosity Comments: To: nsa105@psu.edu In-Reply-To: <36C26D62.370C5D2B@psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:40 AM -0500 2/11/99, Nethra Ankam wrote: >With all this talk of birthdays, I was wondering if Lois' birthday was >ever revealed on the show. We never learned her birthday, but in the episode Contact, we find out she's a Libra, which puts her birthday somewhere from mid-Sept to mid-Oct. For some reason, I have this impression in >my mind that Lois had a surprise b-day party or turned down a surprise >b-day party....but I can't rememeber the ep, which makes me think I'm >thinking of a fanfic....what was my question again? :) You are thinking of a fanfic. :) Not sure which one (I think there have been several that did Lois's birthday), but it was never on the show. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com http://userweb.springnet1.com/kathyb/ KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:58:27 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nethra Ankam Subject: Re: out of curiosity Comments: To: Kathy Brown In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Kathy- At 12:27 AM 2/11/99 -0600, Kathy Brown wrote: >At 12:40 AM -0500 2/11/99, Nethra Ankam wrote: >>With all this talk of birthdays, I was wondering if Lois' birthday was >>ever revealed on the show. > >We never learned her birthday, but in the episode Contact, we find out >she's a Libra, which puts her birthday somewhere from mid-Sept to mid-Oct. > Thanks for the info! It would have been cool if there was an ep with her birthday though...but then her birthday would have to be in the beginning of a season...I wonder if it was her birthday when Ching and Clark were tearing up her apartment and she was making fudge and popcorn :) > For some reason, I have this impression in >>my mind that Lois had a surprise b-day party or turned down a surprise >>b-day party....but I can't rememeber the ep, which makes me think I'm >>thinking of a fanfic....what was my question again? :) > >You are thinking of a fanfic. :) Not sure which one (I think there have >been several that did Lois's birthday), but it was never on the show. > See, here's the thing...some of the fanfic I have read about Lois' birthday seem to refer back to the show. And when I read the story, it drives me crazy thinking I'm missing something. The one thing that comes to mind is Lois saying she didn't want a surprise party for her birthday and worrying that she wouldn't get one this year because she complained last year or somthing like that. Unless instead of refering back to an ep, the fanfic writer is refering back to another fanfic or the "general fanfic reality" which could be true esp. with over 900 stories! When I find an example of a specific story, I'll get back to you... oh, by general fanfic reality I mean stuff like Clark listening for Lois' heartbeat...is there an official term for stuff like that? Nethra who thinks there should be some kind of celebration when the archive reaches 1000 stories (just because it ventures into the 4 digits)...wonder who will write the 1000th story? ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:21:49 -0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: out of curiosity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ->At 12:27 AM 2/11/99 -0600, Kathy Brown wrote: >>At 12:40 AM -0500 2/11/99, Nethra Ankam wrote: >See, here's the thing...some of the fanfic I have read about Lois' birthday >seem to refer back to the show. And when I read the story, it drives me >crazy thinking I'm missing something. The one thing that comes to mind is >Lois saying she didn't want a surprise party for her birthday and worrying >that she wouldn't get one this year because she complained last year or >somthing like that. Unless instead of refering back to an ep, the fanfic >writer is refering back to another fanfic or the "general fanfic reality" >which could be true esp. with over 900 stories! When I find an example of >a specific story, I'll get back to you... Well, Lois (and Clark) celebrated her birthday in style of course in The Gorn's Going, Going, Gone......but that's nfic not archive. I know the fanfic you're referring to.....for some reason I have the thought that it might be in Debby's 'Dawning' but I could be wrong. You wrote (are writing) such an epic, Debby, that these days I tend to automatically think *everything* I recall about fanfic is in 'Dawning'. > >oh, by general fanfic reality I mean stuff like Clark listening for Lois' >heartbeat...is there an official term for stuff like that? Fan lore? That's certainly what we used to call it in every other fandom I've known. But, you know, we FoLCs tend to have our own sense of style, so maybe someone's coined another phrase for it. Probably an ancroynm too. ;) > >Nethra >who thinks there should be some kind of celebration when the archive >reaches 1000 stories (just because it ventures into the 4 digits)...wonder >who will write the 1000th story? Right on. I was thinking that myself when I downloaded the latest batch the other day. Now *there's* an incentive to finish off the nfic version of my epic, Caped Fear, and produce a PG copy if ever I heard one. LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:16:15 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rachel Ernst Subject: the Ultra Survey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi everyone Last night was one of those nights when I could not sleep, so I, of course, thought about Lois and Clark. (I'm sure some of you are familiar with this situation). Anyway, I tried to decide what my favorite episode is. It was quite a competition between the funny ones, the waffy ones, the action-packed ones, and the plot-oriented ones. I was wondering if there has ever been a poll or survey of everyone's favorite episode? Is there a website or an archive or any type of list of different people's favorite episodes (and why)? Or are you guys interested in conducting an informal survey now? I'm just curious about why fans choose certain episodes over others as favorites. As for me, I think "Ultra Woman" won as my personal favorite. I choose UW because I love the fact that Lois finally learns what Clark's life as Superman is like. Also, they move beyond the dumb "let's forget the M-word and just concentrate on being in love" phase. The engagement ring is finally put to a good purpose, by signifying L & C's committment when they finally decide to be honest with each other about their true feelings. And, who can forget that great joke about Clark preferring briefs over boxers! I guess the word "finally" was used so many times in this discussion of Ultra Woman because I believe the episode was the culmination of all the struggles and tension and falling in love that Lois and Clark went through the first two seasons. So, that's my analysis. What do other people think? I'm curious as to why FoLCs might like other eps. Let's face it -- I know there are too many good ones to choose from, but I'm sure every fan has one ep in mind that defines the reality of Lois and Clark. Anyone want to enlighten me? yours in FoLCness, (Sherrif) Rachel _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:37:05 -0500 Reply-To: bird@sentex.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Bird & I Company Subject: Re: the Ultra Survey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rachel, While I do like Ultrawoman, my favourite episode is Ordinary People for in that episode, Lois came to accept Clark as who he is, both Clark Kent and Superman. To me that's the episode when the relationship between L&C was established. Where they accept each other as who they are and the words "being with you is stronger than me alone" was said by Clark. Of course I didn't much like Contact .....after Ordinary people it surely couldn't have happened! Sue > > Hi everyone > > Last night was one of those nights when I could not sleep, so I, of > course, thought about Lois and Clark. (I'm sure some of you are > familiar with this situation). Anyway, I tried to decide what my > favorite episode is. It was quite a competition between the funny > ones, the waffy ones, the action-packed ones, and the plot-oriented > ones. I was wondering if there has ever been a poll or survey of > everyone's favorite episode? Is there a website or an archive or any > type of list of different people's favorite episodes (and why)? Or > are you guys interested in conducting an informal survey now? I'm > just curious about why fans choose certain episodes over others as > favorites. > > As for me, I think "Ultra Woman" won as my personal favorite. I > choose UW because I love the fact that Lois finally learns what > Clark's life as Superman is like. Also, they move beyond the dumb > "let's forget the M-word and just concentrate on being in love" phase. > The engagement ring is finally put to a good purpose, by signifying L > & C's committment when they finally decide to be honest with each > other about their true feelings. And, who can forget that great joke > about Clark preferring briefs over boxers! I guess the word "finally" > was used so many times in this discussion of Ultra Woman because I > believe the episode was the culmination of all the struggles and > tension and falling in love that Lois and Clark went through the first > two seasons. > > So, that's my analysis. What do other people think? I'm curious as > to why FoLCs might like other eps. Let's face it -- I know there are > too many good ones to choose from, but I'm sure every fan has one ep > in mind that defines the reality of Lois and Clark. Anyone want to > enlighten me? > > yours in FoLCness, > (Sherrif) Rachel > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:15:37 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Anne Simmonds Subject: Re: the Ultra Survey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Rachel wrote: >As for me, I think "Ultra Woman" won as my personal favorite. I >choose UW because I love the fact that Lois finally learns what >Clark's life as Superman is like. Also, they move beyond the dumb >"let's forget the M-word and just concentrate on being in love" phase. > The engagement ring is finally put to a good purpose, by signifying L >& C's committment when they finally decide to be honest with each >other about their true feelings. And, who can forget that great joke >about Clark preferring briefs over boxers! I guess the word "finally" >was used so many times in this discussion of Ultra Woman because I >believe the episode was the culmination of all the struggles and >tension and falling in love that Lois and Clark went through the first >two seasons. Hey everyone!! I think that my favorite episodes were the soulmates and the ulternate episodes. I thought that they were good and they gave the actors a different views on their characters. That just MHO. Talk to ya lator!! Anne Simmonds ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:36:18 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: OT: Any clues... In-Reply-To: <4.0.2.19990210181428.009191e0@swcp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My Goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel greatly honored!! (She blushes, she hears the applause, she bows deeply, extremely moved!) Not only did you make my day, today, but I think it will hold me for a very long time.! My thanks to the billionth power:) Carolyn > ###################################################### > WARNING! THIS MAIL SENT BY AN UNVERIFIED USER! > READER BEWARE!!! > ###################################################### > >At 03:47 PM 2/10/1999 -0500, Carolyn S (for Super) wrote: >>Hi Debby: >> >>Just wanted to thank you for thinking so highly of my efforts:) >> >>You made my day! > >She's worth it, isn't she, readers? Let's have a round of applause for >someone I'd vote for for "L&C Fan of the Year" for the great, detailed >posts she shares with us. If fanfic writers aren't getting ideas from >her... it isn't *her* fault, eh? > >Applause! Applause! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:24:46 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rachel TenHaaf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Okay, I'm very new to all this stuff, so pardon me please. I just thought I'd say that in the beginning. I have questions and my usual source is not on this continent at the moment. Where are all these places where other fanfic is? I don't know, because I'm new and I'd love to find out. I noticed that there are a lot of people that are FoLC. I feel much better now. I don't know any personally. College does not seem to be breeding ground for them. I decided to try my hand at fanfic, but they found out and now I'm the subject of odd looks. I'm wondering if anyone else has ever experienced this. Superman is not a popular thing here. 'Nother question. How long does it take for a fanfic to get through the system? I know that because of the Kerths this is slower, but I was just wondering. One final question. This is for another fanfic that I'm trying despite the odd looks. Is there anyway that I could keep Superman grounded (as in another place besides Metropolis) without making him sick or exposing him to Kryptonite? Finally, you're sick of me now aren't you, I just want to tell everybody out there who writes stuff that I love it and that it finaly got me to do what I never thought I could. Namely, but my stuff down on paper. Thanks. Rachel (another one, do I need a new name?) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:04:28 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: FoLC Lore (was Re: out of curiosity) Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Fan lore? That's certainly what we used to call it in every other fand= om I've known. But, you know, we FoLCs tend to have our own sense of style, = so maybe someone's coined another phrase for it. Probably an ancroynm too. ;= ) << It seems perfectly obvious to me ... FOLC lore Good 'n' punny... It'd be interesting to see a list of these generally-agreed upon things (= or at least things that more than one author has used) ... let's see, we've got Clark listening for Lois' heartbeat ... them having a son named CJ ..= . I know there's more. What else? PJ who agrees with Nethra, we need a party when the archive hits 1000 :-) !^NavFont02F01FE000FMGJHGB9MGBBHHFF0F55 Pam Jernigan (jernigan@compuserve.com) ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ It's KERTH time! Read all about it at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jernigan/folc.html ~~~~~ Read L&C Season 6 (S6) at: http://tempus.simplenet.com/season6/ (I'd turn off the NavFont garbage if I could ) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:46:09 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: out of curiosity In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19990211015827.319fb3fc@email.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 1:58 AM -0500 2/11/99, Nethra Ankam wrote: > The one thing that comes to mind is >Lois saying she didn't want a surprise party for her birthday and worrying >that she wouldn't get one this year because she complained last year or >somthing like that. Unless instead of refering back to an ep, the fanfic >writer is refering back to another fanfic or the "general fanfic reality" >which could be true esp. with over 900 stories! When I find an example of >a specific story, I'll get back to you... I can't cite a chapter number, but I know that Debby Stark has mentioned Lois's birthday several times in her Dawning series. So, if that's one you are thinking of, there's definite a "fanfic reality". That universe has been in development as long as the show itself. :) (And I have no idea how Debby keeps her own canon straight -- FoLCs sometimes complain about show's continuity and say the writers should keep a "bible" to refer back to. But think about how much work that would be for a single fanfic writer whose series is thousands and thousands of pages long! Very impressive that she isn't contradicting herself left and right.) >Nethra >who thinks there should be some kind of celebration when the archive >reaches 1000 stories (just because it ventures into the 4 digits)...wonder >who will write the 1000th story? LOL, good idea. We'll have to have some big flashy sign on the front page or something. Hmm, I wonder how close we will be on Kerth night, March 27. Maybe if we get to 999 in mid-March, we can hold off on the additional story until then. Interestingly, I've had people attach a note to a submitted story, "can you make sure this one is number 900" or whatever. Unfortunately, I have to reply with a no-can-do. For one, once we let one person do it, we'd have to let everyone do it but most importantly, we have no idea how many stories are going to come in during a given week. If we uploaded one story at a time and numbered them, we could finagle, but I don't know how many stories will be in a weekend upload until I do the assigments earlier that week. :) Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com http://userweb.springnet1.com/kathyb/ KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:51:34 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: FoLC Lore In-Reply-To: <199902111504_MC2-6A28-BB98@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 3:04 PM -0500 2/11/99, Pam Jernigan wrote: >let's see, we've >got Clark listening for Lois' heartbeat ... them having a son named CJ ... Lois calling Clark "flyboy" to contrast with "farmboy". (Actually, Farmboy could count, too, since she only uses it once on the show, but boy did it stick for fanfic. ) Oh, thought of another ... if they have a girl, her name is usually either Laney, Martha or Lara. ;) Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com http://userweb.springnet1.com/kathyb/ KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:07:49 -0500 Reply-To: nsa105@psu.edu Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nethra Ankam Subject: Fanfic Lore MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pam Jernigan wrote: > >It'd be interesting to see a list of these generally-agreed upon things (or > >at least things that more than one author has used) ... let's see, we've > >got Clark listening for Lois' heartbeat ... them having a son named CJ ... > >I know there's more. What else? > Thinking, thinking.........what about the fact that Lois named the bear Clark won for her in GGGOH "Clarkie." And there are also FoLC favorites...lines that fanfic writers keep using, though they were used once or twice on the show...like "Don't fall for me farmboy" or the Cheese of the Month club excuse. I don't know what else...but this is the stuff I like about fanfic...you wonderful writers out there create and extend the Lois and Clark Universe until it is "realer" than real... Nethra (a lurker who recently got a surge of courage to post messages...but it'll probably go away soon :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:12:55 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Susan VanCott Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Places for other fanfic... let me think. There's a really great reference site at http://members.aol.com/KSNicholas/fanfic/ and people's personal fanfic sites are here: http://members.aol.com/beth012400/fanfic.htm ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark/Stories/ also Zoomway's place, http://acreativetouch.simplenet.com/zoomway/ That's all for now. You should be able to get some more through the reference site. And oh, yeah, I'm a real freak around here. Nobody but me likes Superman. :) Not much, anyway. You're not alone. For a fanfic to go through the system, it takes a week or two if it's short, and for a really long one, sometimes up to a month. A way to keep Superman grounded would be to have him... hmm. That's a hard one. What if he was trapped with a lot of people, surrounded at all times, and didn't want to give away his secret? What if there were a lot of... oh, police or something around, who always flew helicopters, and he didn't want them to see "Superman" in their area? (okay, that was reaching a little bit) Kryptonite has always been good enough for me! Oh, wait, there was one thing-- in Lethal Weapon, (the episode, not the movie), he lost his powers when they went out of control due to red kryptonite. It affects him differently every time, so you could make something up there without hurting him. Gold Kryptonite takes his powers away completely, forever. I forget what all the other colors do. (There's blue, green, gold, jewel, and red) I never even knew what jewel Kryptonite did. I think it was a plot device used only once in the silver age of the comic books. Well, I'm off to Italy!!!!!!!!! Ciao! Peace, Love, and Superman, ~~>Susan<~~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:14:08 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: FoLC Lore Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Lois calling Clark "flyboy" to contrast with "farmboy". (Actually, Farmboy could count, too, since she only uses it once on the show, but boy did it= stick for fanfic. ) << Good one, yeah... and there are innumerable references to Lois babbling (like a brook, of course); I don't think it was played up quite that much= on the show. There for a while, anyway, there was a trend to refer to the Superman costume as "the Suit" with the capital S, no matter where in the sentence= it was... and we sure picked up on the ~-> hand signal for flying that th= ey used in OP... Oh, and lots of people (me included ) have had L&C relax= by watching "The Princess Bride" -- either because a lot of us like that movie, or more likely because Dean mentioned it as a favorite. And of course, as Kathy's other post points out, Debby and Dawning have a= lore all of their own with cupcakes and slime monsters and Superman's= agent, oh my... PJ !^NavFont02F02F6000FMGJHG91MG93HIF782E5 Pam Jernigan (jernigan@compuserve.com) ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ It's KERTH time! Read all about it at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jernigan/folc.html ~~~~~ Read L&C Season 6 (S6) at: http://tempus.simplenet.com/season6/ (I'd turn off the NavFont garbage if I could ) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:25:08 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown In-Reply-To: <19990211192446.399.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Last post for today, I promise ... well, at least for this afternoon. At 11:24 AM -0800 2/11/99, Rachel TenHaaf wrote: >I have questions and my usual source is not on this continent at the >moment. Where are all these places where other fanfic is? I don't know, >because I'm new and I'd love to find out. Welcome Rachel. This is the place to ask. We are the experts on all things fanfic. ;) The largest source for L&C fanfic is the "Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive". The URL is . We have over 900 stories there, with more being added every week. If you are new to fanfic reading, it can be kind of overwhelming to visit the archive for the first time. Where do you start? Fortunately, I have some suggestions. :) >From the front page, follow the link to "Theme". We have listed selected stories under various categories (Reve