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Greetings and Aloha Wendy

Ino Ino mai nei luna           wild scud the clouds
I ka hao a ka makani        Hurled by the tempest
He makani ahai lono        A tale bearing wind
Lohe ka luna i pelekane   that speaks messages from afar

That the winds themselves have voices which carry, songs, myths, tales,
legends, news, and gossip is a poetic notion of many polynesians.  .  I
thought this chant was apropos because the last two lines, translated more
literally, say that the rulers in Pelekane (Britain) hear the tale bearing
wind.   We send to you our voices on the wind, to wish you a safe surgery
and speedy recovery.

Mahalo nui loa
The Uyehara Family ( and Cats)

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>Apologies for taking up bandwidth on a non-L&C related topic, but I
>wanted to say a temporary 'goodbye' to list members. I am going into
>hospital on Friday for surgery; I'll be there for a week and then
>recovering at home afterwards for about three months. I can access
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I am looking for a fanfic about Clark returning from New Krypton to find
Lois happily married and VERY pregnant.  A nice twist would be if if
Lois already had a son or daughter of Clark's that was concieved the
night before he left for New Krypton.

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LabRat

As one of that small band of UKers who made it to London to see BM on the
big screen (+ two very welcome USers who jopined us, there's dedication!
<grin>) you will appreciate how keenly  have been awaiting the release if
this video - definately on the *must buy* list as soon as available!!! - I
notice that Emma Norman (Barry's daughter) has it as her 'film of the week'
on release week - and I am in her prize draw for a copy, along with the
rest of you I guess!!!

Not to just send a 'me too', I will mail you privately from work with URL
etc for the German sitre that has *great* pics (and avi of that first
shot!) - my bookmarks are on my surfing machine at work!!!!

>Okay... I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes... does this review mean
>that the movie is now available in ENGLISH???  I have the german copy, and
>while he looks terrific, I can't follow the story at all.  Well??
>
>
>Crystal
>

Crystal - the film is only available for rental as yet in UK - PAL format
(but original soundtrack), so copys to buy should be out in the New Year -
we don't yet have TND to buy!!!

Still drooling

Jenny

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>BEST MEN - A Review.
>
>Beg, borrow, steal=85..even beat up a few old ladies=85=85but beat a path=
> to your
>video store, get your hot, grubby little paws on this one and don=92t let=
> go!
>
>
>At last!  Dean gets a movie with a plot, a script that made me LOL more t=
>han
>once and produced a lump in the throat just as many times as that, and
>characters you can care about. Besides Dean, of course! <g> I was in that
>bank all the way with those guys and rooting for them just as much as the
>crowd and the band were.
>
>Some of the plot and acting from the bit players is a little ropy at time=
>s
>and the scene is - as always - almost stolen completely by Brad Dourif's
>deranged Vietnam Vet who is probably the most sane person there, but Dean
>gives a wonderful performance - although I could have done with more scre=
>en

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Lois: In one lousy second, I lost my partner and my best friend. He died
without knowing. I never told him.                      - ToGoM

Wells: Destiny has blessed you both with each other. No small gift indeed.
There's many people who travel alone through, well, their whole lives and
envy what you two have together . . . greatly.          - Soul Mates
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Susan,

   You did a marvelous job and deserve to be very damn proud of yourself!! I
wish I could write that well!! Hope to read another sometime soon.

Jessie~
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> I am looking for a fanfic about Clark returning from New Krypton to fin=
d
> Lois happily married and VERY pregnant.  A nice twist would be if if
> Lois already had a son or daughter of Clark's that was concieved the
> night before he left for New Krypton.

Check out "Three Grandmothers" by Piper -- not exactly what you describe
but along those lines.  It's in the archive, I think, and also at my site=
 (URL
below).

Peace
A FoLC Named Peace
Lois & Clark fanfic and a personal love story
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7137
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Jenny wrote:
> Not to just send a 'me too', I will mail you privately from work with =
URL
> etc for the German sitre that has *great* pics (and avi of that first
> shot!) - my bookmarks are on my surfing machine at work!!!!

Jenny!!! share!!  the rest of us might like to get to that German site =
with
the great pics too! <g>

Peace
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The last couple of posts re grammar and our pet peeves regarding same
coupled
with watching TV ads <gasp!> has helped me realize one more thing that bugs
me
about English usage. Does anyone agree with me - or have other thoughts
about
this? I was watching a public service announcement about some of the
upcoming
activities in town when the announcer made reference to "women artists".
Now,
if I understand correctly, the word "women" is a plural noun. So how can it
modify the noun "artists"? IMHO, he should have used the word "female",
which
can be used as either an adjective or a noun - female artists. How does "men
artists" sound? Just as wierd to me!

Debra G

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Hey :)

I have the link to Michael Toman's Austrian site on my page :)  It has
instructions on how to get there too since his site is in German :)

http://members.aol.com/casusan/lcsites.html

I will be updating it soon with more sites and adding the fanfic pages
sent to me :)

ENJOY!

Susan

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> Jenny wrote:
> > Not to just send a 'me too', I will mail you privately from work
with URL
> > etc for the German sitre that has *great* pics (and avi of that
first
> > shot!) - my bookmarks are on my surfing machine at work!!!!
>
> Jenny!!! share!!  the rest of us might like to get to that German
site with
> the great pics too! <g>
>
> Peace
>

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"Truth, justice, and the North American way."  I am going out on a limb here
and suggesting that this is the line Dean ad-libbed?
Was it just me or did the bed scene with V. Williams look suspiciously like
the opening scene of Brutal Youth? lacking the ceiling effect, of course.

It wasn't as stupid as I expected, but not as good as I wanted it to be.
Any
opinions?
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>Was it just me or did the bed scene with V. Williams look suspiciously like
>the opening scene of Brutal Youth? lacking the ceiling effect, of course.

No, it wasn't just you, I noticed this too.  It also seemed to me that Dean
had a few other lines that were straight out of Lois & Clark (of course, I
can't think of any examples at the moment).  Although, it could have just
been that I was looking for them. ;)

>It wasn't as stupid as I expected, but not as good as I wanted it to be.
Any
>opinions?

I must admit, the plot wasn't all that thick and it seemed to me that there
were a few loose ends (e. g. What was going on with the Hawaiian girl with
the eye-patch and her coach?  Did anyone else understand that?).  However,
after a long, intellectually challenging week, the superficial plot,
constant action, and happy ending were exactly what I needed!  Overall, I'd
say I loved it!

Karen :)
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Karen wrote:

>>Was it just me or did the bed scene with V. Williams look suspiciously
like
>>the opening scene of Brutal Youth? lacking the ceiling effect, of course.
>
>No, it wasn't just you, I noticed this too.  It also seemed to me that Dean
>had a few other lines that were straight out of Lois & Clark (of course, I
>can't think of any examples at the moment).  Although, it could have just
>been that I was looking for them. ;)
>
>>It wasn't as stupid as I expected, but not as good as I wanted it to be.
Any
>>opinions?
>
>I must admit, the plot wasn't all that thick and it seemed to me that there
>were a few loose ends (e. g. What was going on with the Hawaiian girl with
>the eye-patch and her coach?  Did anyone else understand that?).  However,
>after a long, intellectually challenging week, the superficial plot,
>constant action, and happy ending were exactly what I needed!  Overall, I'd
>say I loved it!
>
>Karen :)

I agree, Karen, and I think the script may have been written with Dean in
mind and the familiar references were there to interest him in doing the
role.

In the story, he's the most powerful athlete in the world coming off a
previously very successful career and at odds with the press, (most popular
athlete in this case), in love with a crusading and beautiful journalist,
has the the line about truth and justice, and about being 1/4 Hawaiian,
instead of Japanese.  Bill Smitrovich was in Life Goes On and the Hawaiian
ep was on the same day showcasing Dean on PAX.  The part about the blond,
worried about her popularity dumping him proved prophetic(?)

Actually, I think Dean was very graceful about how he handled questions
about Mindy on R&KL, saying that she's wonderful even though he later
looked a little upset talking about it.

By my count, Dean was on four different broadcasts yesterday.  If anybody
has the radio or MTV stuff on tape, please e-mail me privately if I can get
copies, thanks.

The whole movie had that "lets spin off a series" quality and I think Dean,
with this movie and Dogboys, has shown that he's good at picking vehicles
for himself that show off his talents.   I am also really glad to hear
about the deal he's made to act, direct, write and produce.  It is exactly
what I thought he should do and what I hoped he would do.  (Was I sending
him psychic messages?) I see him as a Michael Landon of the current time.
He can do it all and he should.  I just hope he gets the tender moments in
there like in FutureSport, because he's really good at those kinds of
scenes and Dogboys had almost none.

Carolyn
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At 12:46 PM -0400 10/2/98, Karen Ward wrote:
>>Was it just me or did the bed scene with V. Williams look suspiciously
like
>>the opening scene of Brutal Youth? lacking the ceiling effect, of course.
>
>No, it wasn't just you, I noticed this too.  It also seemed to me that Dean
>had a few other lines that were straight out of Lois & Clark (of course, I
>can't think of any examples at the moment).  Although, it could have just
>been that I was looking for them. ;)

The one with VW at his house, when he's making them dinner.  He says
something like "you, the fearless news reporter?".  I smiled. :)   And yes,
I got L&C flashbacks in that love scene, too.

I really enjoyed VW doing all the kicks at the end, and especially the line
"I came here to save you, and you ended up saving me. C'mere. (for a kiss)"
Awwww.  I liked that ending. :)

As for the kicks, I especially loved Eileen's comment on IRC last night,
"Alex was channeling Lois Lane there."  LOL!!

As for the "truth, justice" line, where did you (Kate) hear that Dean ad
libbed that?  I never heard that he did any ad libbing .. only that he
"improved a bad line."  I guess that could mean ad libbing, but I took it
more as making a suggestion.  Hopefully the writer will tell us on that
newsgroup.  Debby, please keep us posted if he posts. :)

>I must admit, the plot wasn't all that thick and it seemed to me that there
>were a few loose ends (e. g. What was going on with the Hawaiian girl with
>the eye-patch and her coach?  Did anyone else understand that?).

The eye-patch girl had been drafted to play for that side, but didn't want
to play the dirty game the coach wanted the team to.  When they lost, the
coach tried to threaten her by saying she lost and would be punished and
she responded "no, I'm a hero.  My PI index is 205.  *You* are a nobody, a
scapegoat.  Have a nice flight home."  I thought that was a good way to tie
up loose ends -- the implication being that the public supported the
players no matter what the outcome of the game, and they were safe, even
after losing.

> However,
>after a long, intellectually challenging week, the superficial plot,
>constant action, and happy ending were exactly what I needed!  Overall, I'd
>say I loved it!

This about sums up my feelings, too.  I wasn't expecting anything serious,
and I had fun watching it.  The plot moved along; I was never bored and the
time seemed to go pretty quickly.

I thought the production values were very good -- I especially liked the
way the writer/director set up the frequent news/sportscasts to tell us
about the game.  That was a clever way to explain the game without simple
exposition by the main characters.

Dean did seem a little over the top (acting wise) at the beginning, but I
thought he settled down once he started interacting with Vannessa Williams.
He said on TV that they did the entire movie in 6 weeks, and that he had a
lot of fun during the shooting. I could see that -- he looked like he was
enjoying himself.

The only scene I LOL'ed at was when Tre became the coach and they did that
slo-mo scene of him "coaching" and the team responding with laughs and
smiles.  I kept thinking "ok, I get it .. he's being really cool, he's
making them relax, they like him, he's a great coach, but the slo-mo and
the silly hand gestures have got to go!" <g>    Over kill, Mr. Director! ;)

The only other part that had me ambivilent was the very end, where Tre
became a "player/coach".  I think the logical thing would have been for him
to have had his surgery and not be able to play anymore due to the abuse he
took, but to go on to be the winningest coach, etc.  However, it was
pointed to me that this was filmed as a Pilot, so of course they can't
pigeon-hole their star.  If the show ever gets picked up (hey, miracles can
happen ;)), I doubt it will be Dean in the Tre role, but I can definitely
see a "Bull Durham" type of show, with the has-been bringing up the
newcomers.

All in all, I enjoyed myself.  And it was *wonderful* to IRC during the
commercials ... it wasn't like coming on after a new ep of L&C a few years
ago, but it was still a blast. :)

Kathy

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At 5:43 AM -0700 10/1/98, Christina Batouli wrote:
>I am looking for a fanfic about Clark returning from New Krypton to find
>Lois happily married and VERY pregnant.  A nice twist would be if if
>Lois already had a son or daughter of Clark's that was concieved the
>night before he left for New Krypton.

Another really *great* NK story is Jeagan's "The Long Road Home" (I think
that's the title that goes with the story I'm thinking of).  In it, Clark
has been gone for a couple years, and after waiting for most of it, Lois
one day feels the bond broken.  She realizes that Clark must be dead and
grieves terribly.  A new male friend helps her through it, and they
ultimately start dating and fall in love.  However, just as he's about to
propose .. guess who shows up.

I won't give away the end, but let's just say that I wouldn't love a story
that has L&C end up apart. ;)

None of Jeagan's stories are on the Archive (boo hoo! I really wish she
would submit them!  If anyone has an 'in' with her, please beg for me!),
but they are on the WWW somewhere, at least they used to be. Anyone know
her AOL website URL?  She has written so many incredible stories.  Her "The
Concubine", another great NK story, should not be missed either.

Kathy

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Sorry for the multiple posts ... I should have combo'ed but I got this one
after I had sent my review.

At 1:38 PM -0500 10/2/98, Carolyn Schnall wrote:
>I agree, Karen, and I think the script may have been written with Dean in
>mind and the familiar references were there to interest him in doing the
>role.

The writer said that the movie was written for Wesley Snipes to be Tre
Ramzey, but he couldn't do it due to his schedule.  So, they wrote him in
as Fixx, and had Dean play Tre.  The writer said that although it was
written for Snipes, Dean was one of their first choices once Snipes backed
out.

With all the "in" lines, though, I bet that Dean was probably committed
pretty early and some of this stuff might have been rewritten in for him.
Like the 1/4 Hawaiian thing ... Snipes couldn't exactly pull that off. ;)

I would love to see a first draft of this script, wouldn't you? To see what
was added/changed.

> Bill Smitrovich was in Life Goes On and the Hawaiian
>ep was on the same day showcasing Dean on PAX.

This was a coincidence, I'm sure, albeit a great one!  I can't believe ABC
looked at PAX's schedule months ago and picked October 1 for an air date
since Dean's ep was that day. ;)

> The part about the blond,
>worried about her popularity dumping him proved prophetic(?)

LOL!! You and me both.  Hey, think the rest of it could come true ... he
ditches the blond, then goes back to his brunette former lover?  (Bad
Kathy! Bad! <vvbeg>)

>Actually, I think Dean was very graceful about how he handled questions
>about Mindy on R&KL, saying that she's wonderful even though he later
>looked a little upset talking about it.

I agree! He came off very well in that part ... obviously pained but not
critical at all.  Didn't you just wanna hug him? ;)

(Yeah, sure, like when don't I want to hug him.)

>By my count, Dean was on four different broadcasts yesterday.  If anybody
>has the radio or MTV stuff on tape, please e-mail me privately if I can get
>copies, thanks.

By my count, it was 8 things over 2 days.  The radio, AH, E! and MTV two
days ago, and GMA, R&KL, Life Goes On, and FutureSport yesterday.

>I am also really glad to hear
>about the deal he's made to act, direct, write and produce.  It is exactly
>what I thought he should do and what I hoped he would do.  (

Oh, me too!  I had heard he had a deal pending, but hadn't heard what
studio.  Columbia/Tri-Star is a big name, so let's hope we get to *see*
some of the results of this deal.

>I just hope he gets the tender moments in
>there like in FutureSport, because he's really good at those kinds of
>scenes and Dogboys had almost none.

This is why I'm really hoping we get to see Rag & Bone as a movie of the
week soon.  Dean did much better with the drama and romance stuff in
FutureSport than he did with the over-the-top arrogance, so I'm really
looking forward to seeing him in a drama.  R&B might fit the bill!

Kathy

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KathyB on IRC
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Hi all :)

If you want to see what the writer of Futuresport said when
interviewed last week go to this web page, it's in the archives...

http://www.trekweb.com/cool/chat/

He did say they adlibbed some of the lines.

Also-

If you want to write to him personally, here is his e-mail
address...he's very personable and seems to like to hear from us-

rhwolfe1@ix.netcom.com

Susan
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In a message dated 98-10-02 12:47:15 EDT, ward8120@MACH1.WLU.CA writes:

<< What was going on with the Hawaiian girl with
 the eye-patch and her coach? >>

She was supposed to be from Singapore, I think. And I did think it odd that
someone without vision in one eye was able to play this sport as they would
have very poor depth perception!

--Laurie
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The AOL FoLC fanfic archive is:
http://members.aol.com/beth012400/fanfic.htm

Jeagan's stories are here, but I can't find "The Long Road Home" or any
other story with that storyline there. :(
You may want to checkout the "Life Without Lois" story under Leslie Cohen on
that site. It is excellent (so far).

Frank Ward
fward@idir.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Brown [mailto:kathyb@FGI.NET]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 1998 12:45 PM
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Subject: Re: NK stories

At 5:43 AM -0700 10/1/98, Christina Batouli wrote:
>I am looking for a fanfic about Clark returning from New Krypton to find
>Lois happily married and VERY pregnant.  A nice twist would be if if
>Lois already had a son or daughter of Clark's that was concieved the
>night before he left for New Krypton.

Another really *great* NK story is Jeagan's "The Long Road Home" (I think
that's the title that goes with the story I'm thinking of).  In it, Clark
has been gone for a couple years, and after waiting for most of it, Lois
one day feels the bond broken.  She realizes that Clark must be dead and
grieves terribly.  A new male friend helps her through it, and they
ultimately start dating and fall in love.  However, just as he's about to
propose .. guess who shows up.

I won't give away the end, but let's just say that I wouldn't love a story
that has L&C end up apart. ;)

None of Jeagan's stories are on the Archive (boo hoo! I really wish she
would submit them!  If anyone has an 'in' with her, please beg for me!),
but they are on the WWW somewhere, at least they used to be. Anyone know
her AOL website URL?  She has written so many incredible stories.  Her "The
Concubine", another great NK story, should not be missed either.

Kathy

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From:         Jenny Mills <j.mills@NETCOM.CO.UK>
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Peace and all

Really didn't mean to be secretive - my bookmarks are on my work machine
(where I browse, it's too expensive to do that from
here!!!)................but I now have URL for all

<http://members.magnet.at/m_toman/Index.html>

Actually - having looked today - it's Austrian

Jenny

At 23:02 01/10/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Jenny wrote:
>> Not to just send a 'me too', I will mail you privately from work with URL
>> etc for the German sitre that has *great* pics (and avi of that first
>> shot!) - my bookmarks are on my surfing machine at work!!!!
>
>Jenny!!! share!!  the rest of us might like to get to that German site with
>the great pics too! <g>
>
>Peace
>
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                                        jmills@ccta.gov.uk

Lois: In one lousy second, I lost my partner and my best friend. He died
without knowing. I never told him.                      - ToGoM

Wells: Destiny has blessed you both with each other. No small gift indeed.
There's many people who travel alone through, well, their whole lives and
envy what you two have together . . . greatly.          - Soul Mates
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In a message dated 98-10-02 13:56:41 EDT, you write:

<< None of Jeagan's stories are on the Archive (boo hoo! I really wish she
 would submit them!  If anyone has an 'in' with her, please beg for me!),
 but they are on the WWW somewhere, at least they used to be. Anyone know
 her AOL website URL?  She has written so many incredible stories.  Her "The
 Concubine", another great NK story, should not be missed either.

 Kathy >>

The AOL Reading Room link still works, and a lot of her stories are there:

 <A HREF="aol://4344:113.lcrr.4682790.519032587">L&C Reading Room</A>

Roseann Buonadies
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Kathy wrote:
>None of Jeagan's stories are on the Archive (boo hoo! I really wish she
>would submit them!  If anyone has an 'in' with her, please beg for me!),
>but they are on the WWW somewhere, at least they used to be. Anyone know
>her AOL website URL?  She has written so many incredible stories.  Her "The
>Concubine", another great NK story, should not be missed either.

I went to one of my favorite sites, where there are a ton of links to
various authors' fanfics.  I did see a few of Jeagan's fanfics there,
including "The Concubine", but I didn't happen to see "The Long Road Home".
Does anyone else know of a link besides the AOL room (since I don't have
AOL...or do you have to have AOL to get to their reading room??) so I could
read "The Long Road Home"?  It sounds great!  For anyone interested, though,
the URL where I found "The Concubine" is:

http://www.rz.tu-ilmenau.de/~wi019/LCFanfiction.html

Bye!

Erin :)
aka ELK on IRC
erink@ida.net

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At 02:54 PM 10/02/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-10-02 12:47:15 EDT, ward8120@MACH1.WLU.CA writes:
>
><< What was going on with the Hawaiian girl with
> the eye-patch and her coach? >>
>
>She was supposed to be from Singapore, I think. And I did think it odd that
>someone without vision in one eye was able to play this sport as they would
>have very poor depth perception!
>
>--Laurie
>

I think it was supposed to be an cybernetic eye, given the date of 2025.

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Kathy writes:
<<Another really *great* NK story is Jeagan's "The Long Road Home" (I think
that's the title that goes with the story I'm thinking of).  In it, Clark
has been gone for a couple years, and after waiting for most of it, Lois
one day feels the bond broken.(snip) >>

Frank Ward writes:
<<Jeagan's stories are here, but I can't find "The Long Road Home" or any
other story with that storyline there. :(>>

Okay, not sure here, but I think that Kathy may be thinking of a story I
wrote which was posted on AOL.  The storyline is similar, and the title was
"The Long Road".
For those interested, the story was posted on the fanfic MB of Zoom's site a
few months ago.

~KM
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Yeah KMcstr!

I just read my mail for today.  After reading Kathy's post, I got out all of
my disks and found your story.  It's an excellent one concerning L&C and the
New Krypton saga.  Then I read your post.  Yes, you are the author!

You wrote another one that is just super: "The Love That Risks Nothing".  In
this one Clark "feels" when Lois is in danger and comes back to Earth from
New
Krypton in the nick of time.  He is feeling such guilt about the whole NK
thing.  It is such a great read.  It was written when the AOL ABC Boards had
a
fanfic Message Board.  KMcstr had FoLCs hanging on every word as the story
was
posted over many weeks.  I miss those Boards.

Have you written anything recently??  I love your style.  It was such a
pleasent surprise to see you on this list.

Anyway, the NK theme produced some wonderful fanfic.  Jeagan's "It Happened
All Summer" and sequel, "Desperately Seeking Lois" are another pair of Kerth
level writing.

Say, if there is another Kerth Awards, do we get to nominate fanfics that
were
not included in last year's competition??  Humm, just thinking of all of our
gifted writers makes me want to dive into all of my saved stories on disk.

Thanks for the blast from the past.
Anne (ACdrift@aol.com)
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At 12:46 PM 10/2/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>...What was going on with the Hawaiian girl with
>the eye-patch ...
>Karen :)

I suspect it would be very difficult for anyone without stereo vision
to play a game like Futuresport...

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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I found this on a list I'm on :) It may help you create a believable
character... Debby :)

Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 23:17:21 -0400
From: Don <drxdon@ComCAT.COM>
To: IUFO@world.std.com
Subject: IUFO: FW: Scientific Jargon Explained
:
:

"IT HAS LONG BEEN KNOWN" ... I didn't look up the original reference.

"A DEFINITE TREND IS EVIDENT" ... This data is practically meaningless.

"WHILE IS HAS NOT BEEN POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE DEFINITE ANSWERS TO THE
QUESTIONS" ... An unsuccessful experiment, but I still hope to get it
published.

"THREE OF THE SAMPLES WERE CHOSEN FOR DETAILED STUDY" ... The other
results didn't make any sense.

"TYPICAL RESULTS ARE SHOWN" ...This is the prettiest graph.

"THESE RESULTS WILL BE IN A SUBSEQUENT REPORT" ... I might get around to
this sometime, if pushed/funded.

"THE MOST RELIABE RESULTS ARE OBTAINED BY JONES" ... He was my graduate
student; his grade depended on this.

"IN MY EXPERIENCE" ... Once.

"IN CASE AFTER CASE" ... Twice.

"IN A SERIES OF CASES" ... Thrice.

"IT IS BELIEVED THAT" ... I think.

"IT IS GENERALLY BELIEVED THAT" ... A couple of other guys think so too.

"CORRECT WITHIN AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE" ... Wrong.

"ACCORDING TO STATISTICAL ANALYSIS" ... Rumour has it.

"A STATISTICALLY ORIENTATED PROJECTION OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THESE
FINDINGS" ... A wid guess.

"A CAREFUL ANALYSIS OF THE OBTAINABLE DATA" ...  Three pages of notes
were obliterated when I knocked over a glass of beer.

"IT IS CLEAR THAT MUCH ADDITIONAL WORK WILL BE REQUIRED BEFORE A COMPLETE
UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PHENOMENA OCCURS" ... I don't understand it.

"AFTER ADDITIONAL STUDY BY MY COLLEAGUES" ... They don't understand it
either.

"THANKS ARE DUE TO JOE BLOTZ FOR ASSISTANCE WITH THE EXPERIMENT AND TO
ANDREA SCHAEFFER FOR VALUABLE DISCUSSIONS" ... Mr. Boltz did the work and
Ms.  Schaeffer explained to me what it meant.

"A HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT AREA FOR EXPLORATORY STUDY" ... A totally useless
topic seleted by my committee.

"IT IS HOPED THAT THIS STUDY WILL STIMULATE FURTHER INVESTIGATION IN THIS
FIELD" ... I quit!
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Anne writes:
<<Have you written anything recently??  I love your style.  It was such a
pleasent surprise to see you on this list.>>

Awww shucks, thanks.  Glad you enjoyed both stories so much.  I really do
need to remember to submit those to the archive.::::runs from Kathy::::::<G>

You asked if I had written anything else lately...  Well, I have at least
two L&C fics in progress.  But unfortunately my time to write has been
short.  I do steal moments here and there, and when they are finished, they
will likely appear here.

~Kelly
kmcstr@cyberia.com
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>> None of Jeagan's stories are on the Archive (boo hoo! I really wish sh=
e
would submit them!  If anyone has an 'in' with her, please beg for me!),
but they are on the WWW somewhere, at least they used to be. Anyone know
her AOL website URL?  She has written so many incredible stories.  Her "T=
he
Concubine", another great NK story, should not be missed either. <<

I don't know the addy for her page offhand, but I do have a link to it fr=
om
my page :-)  Check the links section.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jernigan/folc.html

She wrote a lot of NK stories, as I recall, as well as others...

PJ

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Kal-El's concubine.  Former girlscout, present reporter, future
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>> I think it was supposed to be an cybernetic eye, given the date of 202=
5.
<<

It did seem to be a little bit more than an eyepatch... actually, near
the end, when she was telling off her "coach" she quoted her PI rating, a=
nd
I got the impression that she was looking at a display embedded in that
patch, somehow... maybe it had a data link of some sort, like a heads up
display.

PJ

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Anne wrote:  (btw...hi Anne! <g>)
>Say, if there is another Kerth Awards, do we get to nominate fanfics that
were
>not included in last year's competition??

Yes, we *are* planning on having a Lois and Clark Fanfic Kerth Awards next
year!  As everyone who attended last year found it, we all had a ton of fun,
and I can hardly wait till next year's.  :)  I had just talked with Kathy
(Brown) a short time ago about it briefly, and she mentioned something about
creating a list of all the eligible fanfics.  And to answer your question,
only the fanfics written in 1998 will be eligible.  At least, that was the
plan at last discussion.  Anyone want to jump in here?  Pam? Leanne? Kathy??
:)  (Wow, talk about passing the buck <bg>)

Anyway, it might be a good idea for all you fanfic readers and/or writers
out there to keep in mind the fanfics you read so that when it comes time to
nominate and vote for stories, you'll hopefully remember them!

For those of you on this list that may be new here, and don't have the
faintest idea what I'm talking about <g>, you can go to the following sites
to learn about all the fun we had at the fanfic awards!

http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/Thm-kth1.html

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jernigan/kerth.html

Erin :)
aka ELK on IRC
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At 6:08 PM -0400 10/2/98, KMcstr wrote:

>Okay, not sure here, but I think that Kathy may be thinking of a story I
>wrote which was posted on AOL.  The storyline is similar, and the title was
>"The Long Road".
>For those interested, the story was posted on the fanfic MB of Zoom's site
a
>few months ago.

My most sincere apologies!  I was relying on memory and that was obviously
a mistake!  Thanks so much, Kelly, for setting things straight.  I'm glad
you're on the list.

My recommendation still stands -- The Long Road is an excellent fic.  I'm
glad to hear it's on Zoom's site.  (Though I still will beg you to submit
it to the Archive! :))

At 9:43 PM -0400 10/2/98, Anne Carlson wrote:
>Say, if there is another Kerth Awards, do we get to nominate fanfics that
were
>not included in last year's competition??  Humm, just thinking of all of
our
>gifted writers makes me want to dive into all of my saved stories on disk.

I'm not coordinating the Kerth's this year, though I have offered to help
with preparing lists of eligible stories.  My understanding is that we were
going to have fewer catagories this year, and that only stories submitted
in 1998 would be eligible.  *However*, that said, this would be great
incentive for you AOL authors to get your stories up on the Archive in the
next 3 months. ;) If they are submitted there in 1998 (or Zoom's site, I
would guess, though I'm speaking on behalf of the archive) they would
definitely qualify.  And I know there are some wonderful AOL stories many
of us never got to read!

Kathy

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I wrote:

>...What was going on with the Hawaiian girl with
>the eye-patch and her coach...

I guess I should have written what was going on *between* the Hawaiian girl
with the *cybernetic eye* and her coach.  I wasn't really concerned about
the "eye-patch", but I did find some of the responses interesting . . .

Gary wrote:
> I think it was supposed to be an cybernetic eye, given the date of 2025.

I 'see'. <g>

PJ wrote:
>It did seem to be a little bit more than an eyepatch... actually, near
>the end, when she was telling off her "coach" she quoted her PI rating, and
>I got the impression that she was looking at a display embedded in that
>patch, somehow... maybe it had a data link of some sort, like a heads up
>display.

Now this makes sense.  I was wondering where she was getting her info from.

Debby wrote:

>I suspect it would be very difficult for anyone without stereo vision
>to play a game like Futuresport...

Personally, I found it difficult to even pick up a pen without stereo
vision.  We tried this once in one of my high school physics classes by
covering one eye and then reaching out for various objects.  It was quite
the 'eye-opening' experience!  (Now don't all throw tomatoes at once. <g>)

Laurie wrote:

>And I did think it odd that
>someone without vision in one eye was able to play this sport as they would
>have very poor depth perception!

I agree, although I learned in Psych 100 that, by judging object size and
perspective, the brain can eventually learn to compensate for this
impairment to the point which people who are blind in one eye are able to
function as easily as people with perfect vision.  However, I doubt this
'functioning' applied to sports involving such precise coordination.  Also,
not to mention that a one-eyed person would have a very large blind spot on
one side and  believe me, a blind spot is the last thing you want to have
in a contact sport as rough as Futuresport!

I suppose you're all wondering what the point of this e-mail is.  Well, I
just thought it was amazing what sort of off-hand comments can generate
discussion!  I love this list!

Yours,
Karen :)
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Hey guys!
>
>I'm not coordinating the Kerth's this year, though I have offered to help
>with preparing lists of eligible stories.  My understanding is that we were
>going to have fewer catagories this year, and that only stories submitted
>in 1998 would be eligible.  *However*, that said, this would be great
>incentive for you AOL authors to get your stories up on the Archive in the
>next 3 months. ;) If they are submitted there in 1998 (or Zoom's site, I
>would guess, though I'm speaking on behalf of the archive) they would
>definitely qualify.  And I know there are some wonderful AOL stories many
>of us never got to read!
>

What's the AOL Archive? I hate the thought of missing out on great fanfic.
<g> I've never head of this one. Unless I have it bookmarked under another
name.

Do tell.

LabRat :-)

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In a message dated 10/3/98 4:05:26 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Kmcstr@CYBERIA.COM
writes:

<<
 You asked if I had written anything else lately...  Well, I have at least
 two L&C fics in progress.  But unfortunately my time to write has been
 short.  I do steal moments here and there, and when they are finished, they
 will likely appear here.
  >>

Just a short note to all the writers.  I really enjoy the stories and would
love to read anything you all care to write.  I will wait patiently.
(patiently who do you think your fooling)

Charlotte
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>Anne writes:
><<Have you written anything recently??  I love your style.  It was such a
>pleasent surprise to see you on this list.>>
>
>Awww shucks, thanks.  Glad you enjoyed both stories so much.  I really do
>need to remember to submit those to the archive.::::runs from
Kathy::::::<G>

Well, after reading all of the wonderful comments about your stories, I
thought I'd better find out for myself.  I just finished reading "The Long
Road" and all I can say is, "WOW!"  You had me on the edge of my seat with
a lump in my throat throughout the entire story!  If there's anyone out
there who hasn't read this story yet, I strongly suggest that you do so
right now!  You won't regret it.

>You asked if I had written anything else lately...  Well, I have at least
>two L&C fics in progress.  But unfortunately my time to write has been
>short.  I do steal moments here and there, and when they are finished, they
>will likely appear here.

I'll be watching for them!

Sincerely,
Karen :)
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At 02:12 PM 10/3/1998 -0400, Karen Ward <ward8120@MACH1.WLU.CA> wrote:
>I just finished reading "The Long
>Road" and all I can say is, "WOW!"  You had me on the edge of my seat with
>a lump in my throat throughout the entire story!

You mean there's another fanfic called "The Long Road" besides the one I
wrote?  I have got to read it!  (Assuming it's not an alt-Clark story.  I'm
trying to avoid those at the moment so I don't accidentally steal someone
else's idea:)

Margaret
who should really be revising "Only You:  Recall" but this grabbed my
attention<g>

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On Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:54:48 -0400 Gary <gar8434@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU>
writes:
>At 02:54 PM 10/02/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>>In a message dated 98-10-02 12:47:15 EDT, ward8120@MACH1.WLU.CA
>writes:
>>
>><< What was going on with the Hawaiian girl with
>> the eye-patch and her coach? >>
>>
>>She was supposed to be from Singapore, I think. And I did think it
>odd that
>>someone without vision in one eye was able to play this sport as they
>would
>>have very poor depth perception!
>>
>>--Laurie
>>
>
>I think it was supposed to be an cybernetic eye, given the date of
>2025.
>
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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>
Think so?  I thought it was just her way of accessorizing <g>  Like that
guy with the half metal head and the bars over one eye.
-Jill aka AlienDove-
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Margaret wrote:
>You mean there's another fanfic called "The Long Road" besides the one I
>wrote?  I have got to read it!  (Assuming it's not an alt-Clark story.  I'm
>trying to avoid those at the moment so I don't accidentally steal someone
>else's idea:)

Yep, there's another fanfic called "The Long Road", although I'm sure this
was just a coincidence.  And nope, it's not an alt-Clark story. It is,
however, definitely worth reading.  I found it on the message boards at
Zoomway's site.

>Margaret
>who should really be revising "Only You:  Recall" but this grabbed my
>attention<g>

Oh goody!  Does that mean it's almost ready?  I've been patiently awaiting
the next installment of the "Only You" series ever since finishing "Only
You:  Promise".  I can't wait!

Yours,
Karen :)
also a Canadian FoLC :)
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In a message dated 98-10-03 04:45:38 EDT, LabRat wrote:

<<
 What's the AOL Archive? I hate the thought of missing out on great fanfic.
 <g> I've never head of this one. Unless I have it bookmarked under another
 name.

 Do tell.

 LabRat :-)
  >>

 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/beth012400/fanfic.htm">The AOL FoLCs Fanfic
Archive</A>
http://members.aol.com/beth012400/fanfic.htm

 <A HREF="aol://4344:113.lcrrss.454048.519087304">Reading Room</A>
aol://4344:113.lcrrss.454048.519087304

<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/beth012400/jeagan.htm">JEAGEN fanfic</A>
http://members.aol.com/beth012400/jeagan.htm

For all you FoLC's out there that are not on AOL, I don't know if these
links
work, but they've been in my bookmarks for a while.

Marie,
wondering if "Ya cawnt get theyah from he-ah" takes on a new meaning in
cyberspace.
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---Kathy Brown <kathyb@FGI.NET> wrote:
>
> > The part about the blond,
> >worried about her popularity dumping him proved prophetic(?)
>
> LOL!! You and me both.  Hey, think the rest of it could come true
... he
> ditches the blond, then goes back to his brunette former lover?  (Bad
> Kathy! Bad! <vvbeg>)

 I fit into the Bad Bad! (vvbeg) along with you. I've wondered(and
hoped for) the same thing for a while now even though I know she isn't
really free.?.?   Still, it would be such a WAFFY thing...    He
doesn't seem to want to talk about her though, does he?  Hmmm....

Charlotte
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At 07:47 PM 10/3/1998 -0400, Karen :) also a Canadian FoLC :) wrote:
>Oh goody!  Does that mean it's almost ready?  I've been patiently awaiting
>the next installment of the "Only You" series ever since finishing "Only
>You:  Promise".  I can't wait!

"Almost" is a relative term<g>  It's been "almost" ready for ages now. (And
will be for some time to come I think;\).  I'm plugging away at it.  This
list will be the first to know when it *finally* gets its public debut:)

Margaret
Whose muse apparently left on vacation long before she did and still seems
to be OTS (out there somewhere);p

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Subject:      Ponderings of a 15 y/o girl :)  I had a kind of a thought...

Hey FoLCs :)

I was just thinking, wouldn't it be a good idea for a fic to write from
the perspectic of Superman's teenage daughter?  Imagine that your father
was Superman!  Of course, there'd be pros and cons.  I've made a list of
stuff that came to mind:

Pros:

you'd never have to pay for airfare
no need to find a payphone
you could almost always get to the mall b4 closing
get out of jail free card <g>
alcohol probably wouldn't affect you
lots of exciting vacations
walking dictionaries are useful when doing hmwk :)
you'd definately have the best looking dad out of all your buds
he'd have trouble lying to you :)
you'd get the best presents on holidays/b-days
dr. kline could tutor you in chemistry
you'd always be safe.

Cons:

no secrets, no privacy
he can tell when you're lying
he'd probably run background checks on all your dates
he'd always be running out at the least opportune moment
he could easily ground you to Taiwan for the afternoon instead of your
room

What'd you think?  I might give this a shot... :)

-Jill aka AlienDove-
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Subject:      Re: Ponderings of a 15 y/o girl :)  I had a kind of a
thought...

<< I was just thinking, wouldn't it be a good idea for a fic to write from
the perspectic of Superman's teenage daughter?  Imagine that your father
was Superman! >>

If you're looking for stories told from the POV of Lois and Clark's
children,
there are several. One of my favorites is Susan Stone's "Aliens and
Strangers,"
which can be found in the fanfic archive. And at the risk of advertising my
own
fanfic, I wrote one called "Emptiness in Harmony," the main character of
which
is Lois and Clark's 14 year old daughter who is struggling with her "super"
lot
in life.

<< you'd get the best presents on holidays/b-days >>

I'm not sure I understand how having Superman as a father would get you the
best presents on holidays...

<< he can tell when you're lying >>

Can't most parents? ;)

<< What'd you think?  I might give this a shot... :) >>

Go for it. Stories about Lois and Clark's children are always interesting.
For
me this is partially because the way people see their parents is always very
different from the way their parents are seen by others. It's interesting to
see how fanfic authors think Lois and Clark's children will view them.

-Christy
 kubitc@kenyon.edu
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At 12:59 AM -0500 10/4/98, Conditions are dark. The forecast is deadly.
Tea, anyone? wrote:

Christy, I always know when posts are from you.  I just see a quote instead
of a name -- an always changing quote at that -- and just know who it's
from. ;)

><< I was just thinking, wouldn't it be a good idea for a fic to write from
>the perspectic of Superman's teenage daughter?  Imagine that your father
>was Superman! >>
>
>If you're looking for stories told from the POV of Lois and Clark's
children,
>there are several. One of my favorites is Susan Stone's "Aliens and
>Strangers,"
>which can be found in the fanfic archive. And at the risk of advertising
>my own
>fanfic, I wrote one called "Emptiness in Harmony," the main character of
which
>is Lois and Clark's 14 year old daughter who is struggling with her
>"super" lot
>in life.

Another cute one just was added to the Archive within the last week or so.
It's called "My Adventures With Superman" and it's a fun, easy read.  I
groaned when I read the first paragraph and noticed it was written in first
person -- usually that's a big no-no in my book. However, I kept reading
and found it quite charming.

><< he can tell when you're lying >>
>
>Can't most parents? ;)

Yeah, but most parents have to go on fidgiting and lack of eye contact.
Superman could listen to your heart rate.  Hey, Dad, cut that out!

Kathy

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>From John Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:44:19 -0500
From: John VanSickle <vansickl@erols.kosher.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: The Normal Innocent Bystander's Survival Guide

Now it's pretty obvious that the Hero's job would be ten times easier if
it weren't for the normal human beings who are constantly wandering into
the combat scene during struggles with Bad Guys.  With reporters getting
held hostage, kids who happen to be standing at the point of impact for a
plummeting grand piano, parents worrying about psychically overactive
children, and so forth, we can see just pages and pages of unnecessary
action getting crammed into each and every tale of heroic struggle. Come
on, people. Let's just try to stay out of harm's way so that Superguy can
finally rub out the scum once and for all, eh?
   DISCLAIMER:  The use of masculine/feminine pronouns and assignment of
gender roles is not intended to preclude a reversal of gender roles. It is,
however, intended to offend those who think that Plato and Aristotle
conspired to oppress women. Nyah.

  This list is maintained at http://www.erols.com/vansickl/innocent.htm

 1. Never take on someone that has just beaten the Hero, unless it is to
distract him just before the Hero delivers the killing blow.

 2. If the Evil Overlord announces to the world that he has reformed and
wants only to help people, throw a party, and give away money; don't go.
Especially if he's playing Prince's music. If he's lying, you'll be a
hostage or a statistic. If he's telling the truth, catch the next one.

 3. Watching the Evil Overlord's interview on TV will certainly be
interesting, but do not be in the studio audience when he/she/it hosts
"Saturday Night Live." Tape it, and wait a week or so to see if any other
viewers had any seizures or mind-control problems before you watch the
tape.

 4. If you're riding on public transport and the Stupendous Seven walk onto
your train or bus, get out immediately and wait for the next one.
Especially if they're in their street clothes.

 5. If you are exceptionally attractive, stay away from banks. It's always
the buxom redhead who gets taken hostage by the bankrobbers.

 6. Do not run back to get your teddy bear or puppy.

 7. If you have small children, keep them on one of those kid leashes when
in public, so that they won't go running back after their teddy bear or
puppy.

 8. When a Bad Guy uses you for a human shield, certain delicate areas of
his body are in striking range of your heel. Go for it.

 9. If an acquaintance of yours seems to disappear everytime the Hero puts
in an appearance, rub some of those brain cells together and see what comes
up.

  10. If your child has an adult friend who frequently urges your child to
clear his/her mind, or tells you that your child has "a rare gift," set
your affairs in order. Your days are numbered.

  11. If you are a news reporter, find a happy medium between the people's
right to know and your right to not get kidnapped/held hostage/etc.

  12. If you are a policeman, bank guard, or night watchman, and the first
three shots bounce off of the intruder, do not waste the rest of your ammo
on him/her/it, or risk your neck in hand-to-hand combat; instead, fall back
and observe.

  13. Likewise, if you are a policeman, bank guard, or night watchman, and
your first shot bounces off of the intruder's chest, try shooting other
areas of the intruder's body, like their face, groin, etc.

  14. Do not attempt to duplicate the means by which the Hero gained
his/her powers. You will either fail and die a lingering, agonizing death,
or succeed, lose control of your powers, wreck half of the city, and make
it necessary for the Hero to kill you to neutralize the threat you pose to
everyone else.

  15. If you associate with the Hero, you run the risk of becoming a True
Love or a Sidekick, depending on your availability and mutual gender
preferences. The former situation will involve hostage situations on a
semi-regular basis, but chances of survival are optimal. The latter
position can be quite hazardous to your health; avoid it.

  16. If the Hero and the Evil Overlord are engaged in mortal battle, go
somewhere else as quickly as possible, before you are squished by a car,
the statue of the city's founder, or a collapsing skyscraper.

  17. If you notice that your fellow reporter can type 1,024 words per
minute, you should be able to tell that something's up.

  18. If the Evil Overlord offers you immortality, superpowers, or infinite
wealth, and all you have to do is something that seems terribly trivial,
don't. It's a trick. You will be used as a pawn in a larger game, and then
crushed.

  19. Don't try to impress your significant other by emulating something
that a Hero once did. Doing so usually results in said Hero having to come
and save your butt. And you look like a complete loser, too.

  20. When you hear reports that the Hero has been involved in some illicit
activity, remain skeptical; it's probably a frame-up.

  21. Never, never attempt to learn the Hero's true identity. Success will
get you kidnapped by the Evil Overlord.

  22. If a Superhero takes up residence in your city, a nice spacious
estate in the country will help you to actualize your potential lifespan.

  23. If you are a security guard for a vast, powerful corporation, try to
get assigned to the Marketing or Personnel departments, rather than R&D.

  24. If there's a shy, quiet kid in your class that everyone picks on,
treat him with respect and kindness. When he develops psychic powers, you
may actually survive.

  25. If you are spending the night in a spooky old house on a dare, do not
sneak away to another part of the house to have sex with your Significant
Other. Instead, wait until you can get a nice, clean, safe motel room.

  26. If you come across a body,do not walk slowly in the direction of a
suspicious noise, or stand above the body in a stunned state of shock.
Instead, call the police on your cell phone.

  27. If your Mom or Dad is an eccentric researcher, insist that you live
close to civilization so that you can socialize with your peers and date.
That way you'll be able to judge the Hero and the Evil Overlord on their
own merits.

  28. If your Mom or Dad is an eccentric researcher, insist that they
educate you in their specialty, so that you can duplicate their research as
the need arises, and excercise some restraint on their schemes should they
become mad.

  29. If the Hero says "wait here," it really doesn't matter whether you
obey him or not. If you stay, you will be captured by the Evil Overlord's
henchmen as soon as the Hero is out of earshot. If you tag along, you will
be caught by the Evil Overlord's henchmen as you stumble along.

  Know of any more?  E-mail me!  (Keep in mind the spambot protection in
the return address.)

Regards,
John
--
"He has the power to rear-project major cities!" -- Mike Nelson
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That was a hoot!  I liked that!  :c)

-Audrey
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At 12:30 AM 10/04/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>
>><< he can tell when you're lying >>
>>
>>Can't most parents? ;)
>
>Yeah, but most parents have to go on fidgiting and lack of eye contact.
>Superman could listen to your heart rate.  Hey, Dad, cut that out!
>
>Kathy
>
In VD, Clark was able to modify his vital signs, so maybe his children
could fool him...

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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1998 20:33:00 +0100
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Hey Marie!

Thanx for that! It turned out to be the site I had had bookmarked but lost
when they got transferred in the shuffle between servers. So, it's now been
restored.

I'm a little confused though. Did someone (sorry, I can't recall who!) say
that only fanfic listed on this site would be eligible for the next Kerth
awards? I'm confused because I don't see any of the previous nominees from
the '98 Awards on this site. I just wondered if that meant the nomination
rules had changed? Or have I gotten hold of the wrong stick entirely? Just
curious.

LabRat :-)

> What's the AOL Archive? I hate the thought of missing out on great fanfic.
> <g> I've never head of this one. Unless I have it bookmarked under another
> name.
>
> Do tell.
>
> LabRat :-)
>  >>
>
> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/beth012400/fanfic.htm">The AOL FoLCs
Fanfic
>Archive</A>
>http://members.aol.com/beth012400/fanfic.htm
>
> <A HREF="aol://4344:113.lcrrss.454048.519087304">Reading Room</A>
>aol://4344:113.lcrrss.454048.519087304
>
><A HREF="http://members.aol.com/beth012400/jeagan.htm">JEAGEN fanfic</A>
>http://members.aol.com/beth012400/jeagan.htm
>
>For all you FoLC's out there that are not on AOL, I don't know if these
links
>work, but they've been in my bookmarks for a while.
>
>Marie,
>wondering if "Ya cawnt get theyah from he-ah" takes on a new meaning in
>cyberspace.
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hey
Sorry if i'm slow here but how do you get to Zoom's site?

Ruth
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Hey
SOrry if you got this twice i don't think it went through the first
time.
Anyway i'm a little slow today could someone tell me how to get to
Zoom's site?
Thanks
Also did anyone notice that its only two days till Lois and Clark's
second wedding anniversery?

Ruth
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At 8:33 PM +0100 10/4/98, LabRat wrote:

>I'm a little confused though. Did someone (sorry, I can't recall who!) say
>that only fanfic listed on this site would be eligible for the next Kerth
>awards? I'm confused because I don't see any of the previous nominees from
>the '98 Awards on this site. I just wondered if that meant the nomination
>rules had changed? Or have I gotten hold of the wrong stick entirely? Just
>curious.

The main L&C Fanfic Archive can be located at

<http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/>

We are fast approaching 900 stories, so if you've never visited, get ready
for some reading.  For newcomers, I recommend first going to the "Theme"
section.  You can access the list of last year's Kerth Award winners here
as well as many other recommended stories.

Besides the AOL site that was mentioned, Zoomway's fanfic MB is another
place people post their fanfic.

For the Kerth Awards last year, the requirement was that stories needed to
be found on the WWW somewhere, so people could read stories they missed in
order to enter an educated vote.  There was a link page created so people
could find all the stories easily.  The vast majority of stories were on
the Fanfic Archive.

The reason there weren't very many (any?) nominees from the AOL site was
because most people didn't know the site was there.  Stories were nominated
by readers, not by the Kerth coordinators.  If a story wasn't widely read,
even if it was wondeful, it wouldn't have been nominated.

This is why I hope the writers with their stories on that AOL site submit
their stories to the main Fanfic Archive ... there are some incredible
stories there that deserve a larger audience. :)

Things should be a little more complicated this year now that Zoom's fanfic
MB is up.  I have no idea how many stories there are there exclusively
(meaning, not on the main Archive as well).  As EIC of the Fanfic Archive,
I can easily make a list this spring of all "eligible" stories on the
Archive -- those released in 1998.  However, since Zoom's site was put up,
this no longer can be considered an exhaustive list.

I don't frequent Zoom's site very often (I have the interest, but not the
time, unfortunately.)  Can someone tell me how much overlap there is
between the two sites?  Are there many stories in progress?  Unfinished
stories will not be eligible for a Kerth nominee.

Kathy

_________________________________
Kathy Brown
Editor-In-Chief
Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive
<http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/>
kathyb@fgi.net
KathyB on IRC
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In a message dated 10/4/98 3:56:34 PM Central Daylight Time, ruthlg@apk.net
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<< Sorry if i'm slow here but how do you get to Zoom's site? >>

http://www.actwd.com/zoomway/zoom2.htm

Zoomway@aol.com (choose the message board link ;)
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Hey Kathy!
>
>>I'm a little confused though. Did someone (sorry, I can't recall who!) say
>>that only fanfic listed on this site would be eligible for the next Kerth
>>awards? I'm confused because I don't see any of the previous nominees from
>>the '98 Awards on this site. I just wondered if that meant the nomination
>>rules had changed? Or have I gotten hold of the wrong stick entirely? Just
>>curious.
>
>
>The main L&C Fanfic Archive can be located at
>
><http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/>
>
>We are fast approaching 900 stories, so if you've never visited, get ready
>for some reading.  For newcomers, I recommend first going to the "Theme"
>section.  You can access the list of last year's Kerth Award winners here
>as well as many other recommended stories.

I fell into that site on my first day online - and thought I'd died and gone
to heaven! Still bookmarked and glad to see it still draws in some fine, new
fanfic every now and then.  Can I just take this opportunity to say thanks
to you and the other FoLCs responsible for maintaining and editing the
Archive. Your dedication to bringing us all such great LNC stories is much
appreciated. And, in fact, that goes for any other site owners/editors out
there who spend their time diligently gathering the best of LNC offscreen
for us to wallow over when we should be dusting......vaccuming......doing
the dishes.....walking the dog......hey, who let Real Life (spit) in
here......!

>Besides the AOL site that was mentioned, Zoomway's fanfic MB is another
>place people post their fanfic.
>
>For the Kerth Awards last year, the requirement was that stories needed to
>be found on the WWW somewhere, so people could read stories they missed in
>order to enter an educated vote.  There was a link page created so people
>could find all the stories easily.  The vast majority of stories were on
>the Fanfic Archive.
>
>The reason there weren't very many (any?) nominees from the AOL site was
>because most people didn't know the site was there.  Stories were nominated
>by readers, not by the Kerth coordinators.  If a story wasn't widely read,
>even if it was wondeful, it wouldn't have been nominated.
>
>This is why I hope the writers with their stories on that AOL site submit
>their stories to the main Fanfic Archive ... there are some incredible
>stories there that deserve a larger audience. :)
>
>Things should be a little more complicated this year now that Zoom's fanfic
>MB is up.  I have no idea how many stories there are there exclusively
>(meaning, not on the main Archive as well).  As EIC of the Fanfic Archive,
>I can easily make a list this spring of all "eligible" stories on the
>Archive -- those released in 1998.  However, since Zoom's site was put up,
>this no longer can be considered an exhaustive list.
>
>I don't frequent Zoom's site very often (I have the interest, but not the
>time, unfortunately.)  Can someone tell me how much overlap there is
>between the two sites?  Are there many stories in progress?  Unfinished
>stories will not be eligible for a Kerth nominee.
>

Thanks for explaining that one for me, Kathy. Well, I haven't visited Zoom's
PG fanfic for a time, but last time I was there, I don't think any of the
posted stories were to be found anywhere else. I could be wrong, but I can't
recall finding them elsewhere. The question of overlap does become very
relevant though if you're intending to include an nfic award again in the
1988 Awards as I don't think there are many sites other than Zoom's Nfic MB
(and Debby Stark's mailing list) which gathers so many nfic together in one
place. Again, I may just not have found one yet, but that's where I pick up
90% of my nfic.  And, of course, those can't be posted to the main Archive.
There were lots of works in progress on the PG site last time I visited, but
the majority of the nfic is complete. And there are some complete fanfic on
the PG MB too, of course.

Basically, I'm just glad there's going to be another set of Awards. Last
time around I was so miffed because I hadn't worked out how to email by that
point and so couldn't vote (I know, it's pathetic really) - so I'm looking
forward to putting in my two cents for all my favourites over the year this
time around!!!
>
LabRat:-)
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JUST ANOTHER MANIC SUNDAY An IRC Round Robin by
Missytoo(Missytoo@mindspring.com), Misha(mhall@sound.net),
Lansbury(Lansbury1@aol.com, Zoomway(Zoomway@aol.com),
Mackteach(Mackteach@aol.com) Eraygun(Eraygun@aol.com)

<Missytoo>

Lois closed the closet in their hotel room, thankful she'd not packed as
much
as she usually did. If she was flying "Superman Express" she didn't care,
since all Clark had to do was fly back for the bags, but dealing with
luggage
in airports and worrying about carry-on sizes was for the birds.

She felt a warm, strong pair of arms wrap around her waist. Clark quietly
held
her for a moment, just enjoying the feel of her in his arms.

"You finally done?"

She giggled. "Yes. I know you men don't ever have to worry about what to
wear,
so you'd never understand."

"Well, since we've been married, I'm definitely getting an education."

She grinned at his words, thinking he meant a lot more than women's fashion.

She turned and wrapped her arms around his neck, kissing his chin. "We have
about an hour before the 'Meet and Greet' session. What do you suggest we
do?"

He pulled her closer, and kissed her passionately. "Well, room service
should
be here in about thirty minutes, so we've got time for a shower."

She smiled at him, remembering how insistent he was on conserving water
wherever they went.

"Sounds dreamy."

He picked her up and carried her into the bathroom, the door shutting behind
them with an audible click.

On the street below, a tall stranger stood looking up at their windows, then
turned away to stroll down the crowded street. Jazz music from the band on
the
corner moved through the balmy air of the French Quarter. The smells of a
dozen different types of cooking crowded together on the breeze,and he
dismissed them all as merely atmosphere. New Orleans was not his native
land,
but it was a place where he and others of his kind could be found.

No longer a mere mortal, for him worldly pleasures were a bit dim in
comparison to the heady seduction of power. His greatest satisfaction was in
vengeance and mayhem, heaped upon the lives of those he considered to be
responsible for the loss of what once was John Hendrix.

Hendrix had been a fool, and had trusted the wrong men.  His only gain had
been the means to exact his revenge on those who had destroyed his life. Now
that it was almost complete, he wondered what he should turn his attention
to
next.

A young man stepped up to him, not heeding the warning in his cold brown
eyes.

"Can ya spare sumthin', sir?"

He merely flicked his hand toward the man and strolled by.

The unfortunate man momentarily thought he saw a gold coin tossed by his
shoulder, but as he turned to see where it landed, he was suddenly unable to
breathe. It lasted only a moment or two, but he realized that he'd escaped
with something even more precious... his life. The bocor was someone
everyone
knew about, but no one ever wanted to meet one. To look death in the eye was
a
chilling experience indeed.

Baron Sunday grinned icily. Soon, Clark Kent and Lois Lane would pay for
their
interference in his plans. Very soon indeed.

*****
<Misha>

Ralph slumped against one of the marble pillars in the hotel lobby, pressing
more wrinkles into the back of his polyester suit jacket.  He checked his
watch. Exactly forty-three seconds had passed since the last time he had
looked.

None of the women passing through the lobby spared him a second glance
unless
it was accompanied by a fairly contemptuous sniff.
Finally, he recognized someone who had to pay attention to him.

"Jimmy!"

"Yeah, Ralph?" Jimmy wandered toward him.

"Did you get that list I asked for?"

"Sure." Jimmy handed over a few sheets of paper. He wished that Ralph would
do
his own dirty work.  Asking about strip clubs was embarrassing, even in a
strange city.

"Thanks, Jim."

Ralph checked his watch again. It was still a few hours before the good
shows
started, but he could visit a few bars first and see how his luck fared. He
glanced at the list. 'Serena's Snake Dancers' sounded promising. He'd try
that
one first.

Ralph headed out the revolving doors, stumbling for a moment on the polished
brass rim of the circle.

"Was that Ralph?" Perry asked as he came up behind Jimmy.

"Yeah. He wasn't invited to any of the panels so he was going to have a
night
on the town." Jimmy tried not to laugh out loud.

"Well, he didn't sign up for any of them." Perry turned towards the panel
rooms. "Come on, Jimmy."

"What about Lois and CK?"

"They're hosting their own panel. We'll meet them for dinner afterwards."

In the alley behind the hotel, a serpent's eyes glittered in the shadows.

<Lansbury>

Jimmy and Perry entered one of the conference rooms set up by the Historical
Society of New Orleans for the visiting news people from across the country.
Each looked the crowd over as they tried to find a seat.

"Chief?  Something tells me we aren't in the 'Urban Renewal Conference'.

"Son, I was having the same thought.  Would you look over at that woman in
the
corner? She didn't have a doll with pins sticking in it, did she?"

"Yeah, she did.  I thought she was making it until I saw her stab it a few
times with one of the needles. Where in the heck are we?"

Both looked around confused.  None of the others looked like newspaper
people.
Just as they were about to leave a loud voice came booming from the front of
the room.

"Will everyone take a seat.  The lecture is about to begin."

Quiet settled over the room as people hurried to find a chair.  The only
seats
Jimmy and Perry could find were in the front row.

A tall man came forward and stood in front of the lecturer's podium.  "It is
my honor to introduce a man who is a leader in the study of voodoo here in
New
Orleans.  He has built a huge collection of artifacts dating back over 500
years, which has been on display at The New Orleans Museum of Voodoo for the
last two months.  Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Hendrix Jack."

The crowd applauded as the elegantly dressed man came forward.

Jimmy leaned toward Perry to whisper, "What do we do?  This isn't where
we're
supposed to be."

"I know. Just sit back and let's hope this is one short lecture."

The man looked over the room as the audience once again quieted.

"There are two of you here today who feel you might have entered this room
by
mistake.  But let me assure you, there has been no mistake."

Perry felt Jimmy's elbow dig into his side as the man continued.   "In the
world of vodoun chance never plays into a meeting.  I am honored to have
before me the famous Perry White of the Daily Planet."

Perry's head jerked up and met the gaze of the lecturer.

<Eraygun>

For a few disconcerting seconds Perry thought he knew Hendrix Jack.  There
was
something eerily familiar about the eyes and the posture, the almost regal
bearing of the man.

Perry shook his head slightly and stood up. "Do I know you?"

Hendrix Jack smiled a reptilian kind of smile, and moved closer to the edge
of
the stage until he was almost face to face with Perry, but before he could
utter a sound, a sharp piercing scream came from the lobby.

Perry broke off eye contact and headed for the lobby with Jimmy close
behind.

"Chief, what do you think happened?"

"I don't know, son, but I'd rather face whatever's going on in the lobby
than
whatever the heck was going on in there!"

As they reached the lobby they found Lois and Clark standing next to the
weeping hotel concierge.

"It was horrible, I tell, you, just horrible," she sobbed. "I've never seen
anything like it in all my life!"

<zoomway>

"Calm down," Clark soothed while Lois fished a tape recorder from her purse.
"What was it? What happened?"

The woman took a deep breath, and held it a moment on seeing the tape
recorder.

Lois shrugged. "I'm a bad speller."

"Well," the woman said. "It was a ... a vision."

Clark raised his eyebrows. "A vision?"

"I love this city more and more," Lois whispered.

Perry stepped forward. "Can you describe what you saw?"

She looked up at Perry White, her eyes widening. "You! It was you!"

"Me?" He smiled. "We've never met before."

Lois looked at the terrified woman. "What was Perry doing in your vision?"

"Dying."

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<zoomway>

Jimmy shook his head. "Oh man," he said, wondering if leaving the lecture
was
better after all.

The woman pointed to Jimmy. "And he killed you!" she shouted and let out a
blood chilling scream.

Clark winced as a couple of police officers entered the lobby.

"Some trouble, Miss Elaine?" the shorter officer asked, his partner standing
back and looking at the quickly growing crowd.

"I .. I--" was all she could say before she fainted.

A shadow passed at that moment. Perhaps it was only the lights dimming. The
revolving door spun empty and unnoticed.

Clark shivered as the police officer hurried to aid the woman.

Lois touched him. "You okay?"

"Hm? Yeah, I just had this weird feeling. Like the old expression about
someone walking over your grave."

Lois tugged his sleeve. "Come on, let's take a stroll."

Clark seemed better the instant they were back in the sunlight and took
Lois's
hand. "I feel bad leaving Jimmy and Perry in there to fend for themselves."

"They're big boys," Lois smiled. "Maybe the woman was a little ... potted.
It's a boring job ... maybe one too many mint juleps or whatever they drink
around here."

Clark laughed. "I think they have most modern drinks here, honey. Why, you
need one?"

"Lois would never drink this early," a familiar voice said cheerfully.

Lois beamed. "Star!"

<Misha>

"Lois, Clark!"

"Hello, Star. It's good to see you! It's been a while..."

"...since the wedding. I know, Lois." Star reached her hand towards Lois'.
"I
wanted to ask you about that- you didn't seem yourself and- oh, but I should
tell you first..."

"Aunt Star!"

All three turned as a young black woman launched herself into Star's arms.

She just had time to say, "My oldest sister's girl Luna --" when she was
interrupted once again.

"There you are! I've been waiting all afternoon! Mama told me that you'd be
here, but she just couldn't tell when!" The girl took a breath. "Come on,
Mama's waiting, and Uncle Leo's here and Granmere and..."

Luna tugged at her aunt's arm and steered her away from the hotel.  Star
gave
Lois and Clark one last glance over her shoulder before she disappeared into
the crowd.

"I wonder why she's in town," Lois mused.

Clark shrugged. "Sounds like a family reunion. Now, about that stroll." He
offered his arm to her, and Lois slipped her hand under his elbow with a
smile.

As they walked down the street arm in arm, a woman slipped after them, a
blank
expression on her face.

*****

"Did you ever find out what that woman was talking about, Chief?" Lois asked
over her blackened catfish.

Jimmy answered. "Nope. The police had to call an ambulance after a few
minutes
because she went catatonic."

Perry finished his mouthful of crawfish and reached for his water glass.
"She
was still unresponsive when I called the hospital before dinner."

Their waiter paused to refill the water, and all four leaned back for a
moment. None of them noticed the fine sediment that settled to the bottom of
the glasses.

"The nurse on duty told me she'd call when the patient is able to talk."
Perry
took another sip of his water.

Clark reached for his wine glass, holding it while he spoke. "That's all we
can expect right now. The manager told me this is the first sign of
...'instability', he called it. She's supposedly an exceptional employee."

"Well, what I want to know is how you ended up in that voodoo room, Chief."
Lois redirected the conversation with a wave of her fork.

<Lansbury>

Perry looked at Lois and tried to answer her question.  He could hear
everything around him but he could not get the words to leave his mouth.  A
numbing sensation had begun at his toes and was moving quickly throughout
his
body. Panic, don't panic, White.  Someone will notice you're in trouble.

Clark was the first to realize something was wrong.  "Perry, are you all
right?"

Perry tried to answer him but all he could do was stare back with a look of
horror as he began to fall forward.

All three jumped up.  Clark lifted the chief's body off the table where it
had
collapsed and laid him on the floor.

Lois and Jimmy knelt beside him.

"Perry, talk to me.  Are you all right?"  Lois grabbed his hand in hers.
"Come on, Perry. Come back to us."

Clark was loosening his tie and belt.  Jimmy had his other hand trying to
find
a pulse.

"I can't find a pulse!   Jimmy dropped his wrist and pressed his fingers to
Perry's neck.

Jimmy felt his own heart pounding in his chest.  "We got to do something."

Before Lois or Clark could stop him, Jimmy raised his fist to place a
shocking
blow on Perry's chest and began to administer CPR.

Clark moved Lois slightly to the side as he counted with Jimmy.  "One, two,
three, four, five...stop..."

He bent to place his mouth over Perry's and gave a strong puff of air.  For
the next five minutes they kept up the routine until an ambulance arrived.
The
whole time Lois talked to Perry, trying not to let the fear and her own
panic
get in the way.

The paramedics pushed their way through the crowd around the table and Clark
stood and helped Lois up to make room for them.

A hand came down on Jimmy's shoulder. "Come on, son, move out of the way.
We
can take it from here."

A stunned Jimmy rose to let them do their job.  Fifteen minutes later the
body
of Perry White was removed from the resturant.

Clark, with an arm around Lois and the other around Jimmy, watched as the
lifeless body was placed in the ambulance.  As the three stood in shock, a
female voice came from behind them.

"He isn't dead."  Star reached to touch her old friends.  "He is Not-Dead.
You must go to him immediately."

<zoomway>

The ambulance pulled from the long hotel drive.

Lois grabbed Star's arm. "What do you mean he's not dead? Is this one of
your
pyschic ... things?"

"No, it's voodoo, Lois. Remember the last--"

"Yes, believe me, I remember. So some kind of doll was used?"

"No, not a doll .. a zombie."

"This is crazy!" Jimmy sobbed. "Perry is dead, and you're talking about--"

Clark put a hand on his shoulder. "He's not dead, Jimmy. He's going to be
all
right. Bring the rental car around, and we'll go to the hospital."

Jimmy wiped his eyes. "Thanks, CK."

Clark then turned to Star. "Okay, all I know about 'zombies' comes from
cheap
movies. What *really* happened to Perry?"

"It's a powder prepared by a bocor and sprinkled on food or into a drink. It
was fugu powder, Clark."

"Blowfish?"

Star nodded. "Too much, and it can kill; just the right mix by an expert and
it puts them in a trance, but it resembles death--"

"I'll phone the hospital!" Clark said and began loosening his tie.

Lois sighed with relief and hugged Star. "Thank you."

"I'm glad I was here," she said, pulling from the embrace, "but it wasn't an
accident, Lois. I felt like I was *called* here."

"Called?"

"Yes, a strong feeling I had to be here. I was needed."

Lois smiled. "You were definitely needed, but who would be after Perry? Now
me, I can understand. I could go to Outer Mongolia and there would be
someone
trying to kill me."

"Well, Lois," Star sighed, "a good way to get to you would be through your
friends, and it was you and Clark I felt were in danger."

"Clark," Lois whispered. "Like when Baron Sunday--"

"Yes. Powerful magic ... so strong, those of us sensitive to it can feel it
casting out .. reaching for its target."

Continued in part 3
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 Hi everyone <g>

The IRC round robin writers have been at it again and I have the pleasure of
posting our latest offering: Just Another Manic Sunday.  In this story
Lois's
and  Clark's business trip to colorful New Orleans takes a dangerous detour
into the realm of the supernatural when Baron Sunday returns with a new plan
for revenge.

 We had fun writing it and we hope you enjoy reading it. As always comments
are welcome.

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 Eileen
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PS.  Many thanks to Pam Jernigan for the terrific title ;)
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JUST ANOTHER MANIC SUNDAY Continued from part 2
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<Misha>

*****

Crawfish swam before Perry's eyes, flitting backwards in short sharp bursts.
Steaming sauce dripped from their red shells, pooling in the bottoms of his
eyelids.

His lids fluttered, and Perry caught a brief glimpse of a dim room. His eyes
closed again, swimming with crawfish, and he hauled them open. His vision
blurred, then focused suddenly on the man across the room.

"Mr. White. Good, you're awake." Hendrix Jack stood only a few feet away, a
small python coiling around his hands.

Perry started with surprise, but his body didn't move. He was standing
upright, frozen like a statue.

"It's a pity my agent didn't manage to acquire your companions, but that can
be and has been arranged." Jack's smile matched the curves of his pet snake.
"You may speak now."

"What in the Sam Hill is goin' on here?" Perry growled. His head hurt, his
ribs hurt, and this voodoo maniac was sitting there with a slithery grin on
his face.

"Quite simple, Mr. White. Your friends think you're dead. Oh, I stopped the
fugu before it caused any permanent damage. But don't worry, you're still
completely under my power. As soon as I have all of you, he'll pay."

Perry tried to respond and found himself frozen as before. His eyes fixed
forward, and he realized sleep was overcoming him again. Voicelessly, he
screamed. Powerlessly, he beat against the bonds of his prison.

Hendrix Jack strolled leisurely from the room.

*****

Ralph stared into the caiman's eyes. "I see you staring at me." He took
another sip from his drink, bumping his nose again on the paper umbrella.

He nodded. "You don't scare me." He blinked. The caiman's glassy eyes didn't
move.

"Hey, buddy." The bartender moved in front of the stuffed reptile. She was a
petite Latino with an odd accent. Her twin sister was standing next to her.
"I
think you've had enough there."

"Nah, sweetie. I haven't even gotten started!" Ralph wished she and her
sister
would stand still. They kept swaying from side to side.

"Sure you have."

Ralph leaned back into the bouncer's wide chest. He looked up as he sipped,
and barely managed to swallow the last of his drink.

"Anyone starts talking to the 'gator and they've either had too much or they
shouldn't be here in the first place."

The bouncer's shoulders looked like they belonged on a bus. Ralph kept
looking
up and finally, squinting against the light overhead, saw his head up in the
stratosphere.

"Ai...Ai...Ai..." Ralph stuttered, "...I...was just on my way out."

The bouncer nodded and stepped back, opening an escape route.

Ralph shoved a piece of paper at the giant. "Can you tell me how to get
here?"

The bouncer paled. He shoved Ralph roughly toward the door. "Not here!"

Ralph stumbled out of the bar, colliding with a lightpole, and hung there
for
a moment. He straightened himself crookedly, still leaning against the pole,
and started a weaving way down the street. 'Serena's Snake Dancers' was
around
here somewhere.

Around a corner, Baron Sunday smiled in the darkness. Serena was a good
little
pet. This one was his without a doubt.

<Mackteach>

Jimmy jabbed at the elevator button once more.  "Come on!"  He looked up at
the floor indicators, willing the machinery to move faster.  He began to
pace,
his hand moving to the back of his neck, rubbing at an imagined twinge.  He
stopped his pacing long enough to push the call button once more before
resuming his restless movement.

Lois and Clark entered the hospital and walked to the information desk, but
before they could ask the nurse anything, Jimmy spotted them.

"Lois!  CK!  Over here!"  They walked toward Jimmy even as he met them
halfway.  "The elevators in this hospital don't work!  They --"

Clark placed a hand on Jimmy's shoulder.  "Jimmy!  Calm down.  Getting all
upset isn't going to help the Chief one bit."  He squeezed Jimmy's shoulder
gently but urgently.

Lois stepped to Jimmy's side and began to walk him away from the elevator.
"Clark's right, Jimmy.  Perry's in good hands right now.  The best way we
can
help him is to try and figure out what happened."

The tone in her voice caught Clark's attention and he looked at Lois over
Jimmy's head.  She signaled with her eyes that she would explain everything
in
a minute.

"Why don't you get some coffee, Jimmy?" she said soothingly. "Then we can
sit
down and put together a plan."

Jimmy's shoulders sagged as their words sank in.  "You're right, Lois.  CK."
He sighed.  "I'll be right back."  He smiled weakly at them before heading
off
in the direction of the hospital cafeteria.

Clark watched Jimmy turn the corner before turning back to Lois.  "What's
up?"

Lois looked at her husband, letting her concern and fear for him show in her
eyes.

Clark frowned.  "Lois?"

She took him by the hand and led him to a pair of chairs in the waiting
area.
Sitting down, she pulled him down next to her.  She held his hands in hers,
squeezing them, feeling his natural warmth and strength.

She sighed once, letting out her pent-up tension.  "Clark ... Star told me
some things ..."

Clark frowned once again, not understanding.  "Things?  What things?"

Lois' eyes brightened as she felt tears forming.  "Clark, I came so close to
losing you the last time ..."

"Last time?  Honey, what is it?  I have no idea what you're talking about."

Lois took a deep breath and moved closer to Clark.  She reached up and
caressed the side of his face.  "Star says that a powerful ... magic ... is
at
work ... something that even she can feel reaching out ... for you."  Her
thumb gently caressed his cheek as she watched his face for his reaction.

"Magic?"  Clark thought for a moment.  "As in ..." His hand reflexively
moved
to his chest, gently rubbing it as if he could still feel the snake brand
that
had appeared there twice before.

Lois nodded.  "Baron Sunday. I think he's behind this ... Oh, Clark!"  She
momentarily gave in to her fear and flung her arms around his neck.

Clark pulled her into a tight embrace, stroking her hair and murmuring soft
words of reassurance, a reassurance that he didn't necessarily feel himself,
but one that he knew Lois needed from him.  He closed his eyes and willed
himself to be calm, to control the rising panic in his chest.

"Shhh.  It'll be okay, Lois.  We defeated Sunday once before.  We'll do it
again."

Lois pulled away to look at him, her eyes searching for answers to the
questions that had been nagging at her ever since Star had told her about
the
magic she had felt.

"Did we, Clark?  Did we *really* defeat him before?  The police never found
him.  Clark, what will we do?"

Clark stared at her a moment, his eyes echoing her questions.  He pulled her
once more into his arms.

<Lansbury>

"First, we're going to stay here and be with Perry.  Once we know he's
stable
we need to find the type of drug used on him."

"Yes, we have to try and trace the distributor and who might have bought
it."
Lois was feeling her strength return.  She felt herself go into "fight mode"
once again.

Jimmy walked over and placed coffee on the table.  "That's going to be hard
to
do.  Trace the drug, that is.  This is New Orleans, voodoo is everywhere
here.
It lives and breathes in the walls, streets and people."

The three were silent.  Lois looked into the black liquid.

Then something caught her eye down the long hallway.

<Eraygun>

As Lois looked up, one of the police officers from the hotel approached
them.
He was accompanied by another man who, based on his world-weary expression,
Lois assumed was a detective.

"Ms. Lane, Mr. Kent. I was hoping you'd still be here. This is Detective
MacPherson from the Vice Squad," the uniformed officer said quickly.

"Vice Squad?!"

"Since when does the Vice Squad investigate attempted murder?" Clark asked.

"This has nothing to do with Mr. White, I'm afraid."

"It's about a Mr. Ralph Munch ..." Det. MacPherson drawled as he opened up a
small notebook.

"Ralph?!"

The detective nodded. "Yes, ma'am. We picked him up in an alley off Bourbon
Street 'bout half an hour ago.  He seemed like your basic drunk who'd been
rolled at one of the local strip clubs, but he still had his wallet on him.
And when he didn't wake up we brought him here."

"How is he?" Jimmy asked.

"Well, he went into cardiac arrest on the way here, son, and he's barely
breathin'."

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<zoomway>

"Oh my God," Lois whispered. "One by one he's picking us off."

Clark pulled her to his side. "Officer, where do they have Ralph now?"

"Admitting said he's in the ICU with the other patient, a Mister--"

"Perry White?"

The officer nodded.

"Come on," Clark said, leading Lois and Jimmy up the corridor and leaving
the
two policemen staring after them.

"CK, maybe I should phone Alice.  I mean, they've been dating again, and
she... she was flying down here tomorrow."

"Okay, Jimmy, but do *not* eat or drink *anything*. This is more chemistry
than magic."

"No problem, CK. I don't think I'll be hungry or thirsty again until I'm
back
in Metropolis," he said and trotted back the way he had come.

*****

Lois made it to the Intensive Care Unit.  Machinery hummed in the
background.
They were the only things keeping both Perry and Ralph alive at the moment.

Clark had taken advantage of Jimmy's departure to change into Superman. He
often got access where others were denied, sometimes only because no one
wanted the responsibility of stopping him.

He entered ICU in time to hear Lois arguing with the frazzled duty intern.
It
was an argument of whispers, exaggerated arm movements and facial grimaces.

The intern was about to phone security when he saw Superman standing, just
peering into the IC units containing the two men.

The floor vent stirred the cape ... rather regally, Lois thought.

"Su..Superman?"  the young intern said. The awe in his expression was all
too
familiar to Lois.

"I need to speak to these men," Clark said authoritatively.

Lois smiled crookedly. She loved how he got away with that.

"Well, I .. I guess it would be okay."

"Thank you. Ms Lane, I'll need your help."

Lois started walking by his side, but glanced over her shoulder long enough
to
mouth 'ha!' to the intern.

As soon as they were in the unit they both approached Perry.

"Oh, Clark, he looks worse than before. How can he be deteriorating?  They
know it's fugu poisoning now. He should be getting better, not worse!"

"I know, honey, I know," he said and lightly placed a hand on Perry's
shoulder. "Mr. White," he whispered.

Perry's mouth gaped. "You're too late," he said, but it was not *his* voice.

<Misha>

"Mr. White?"

Perry's eyes opened. The room was unchanged, uninteresting in its blandness.
Directly across from him Jimmy stood at attention, his eyes fixed on
nothing.
Out of the corner of his eye, he could see a form, possibly human, slumped
against the wall. The faintest scent of alcohol and stale sweat reached his
nostrils. Perry tried to wrinkle his nose, but failed. He could breathe and
he
could move his eyes. There was nothing to see.

Except for the slither of a snake on his shoulder. The heavy weight of a
large
python settled on him. The dry rasp of scales, the slightest of noises,
filled
the room.  The weight shifted across his shoulders, down his arm, and the
snake slid off him to the middle of the room.

Perry blinked.

Hendrix Jack stood there, his back to Perry. Over the man's shoulder, Perry
saw Jimmy's eyes snap to Jack's face.

"Welcome, Mr. Olsen," he said, and then turned, as if aware of the weight of
Perry's gaze.

"Interesting. You have more will than your friend over there." His eyes
darted
to the slumped form and back to Perry's face. "It doesn't matter. One more
and
he'll be completely crushed."

Perry blinked again, and met Jimmy's eyes. They were alone again, but for
the
faintest sound of dry scales over stone.

*****

Lois stared at the third still form through the glass. Behind her, she could
feel her husband's presence dominating the huddled group of policemen. The
addition of Jimmy to the ICU had instigated the appearance of a pair of FBI
agents, and the resulting scramble for jurisdiction. Their arguments were
beginning to intrude on her silent guard over her friends.

They had found Jimmy's body halfway down the corridor less than ten minutes
after he had left them to call Alice.  Superman had spotted the nearly
invisible mark of a dart on the back of Jimmy's neck. Apparently the bocor
had
been prepared for their futile attempt to avoid the fugu poison.

She frowned. Star had told them to go to Perry. But that hadn't helped any,
and now Jimmy and Ralph were in just as much danger. She shivered.

"What did you mean, Star?" she whispered to the glass.

"Why don't we ask her, Ms. Lane?" Superman had left the officials to their
squabbling. He stood beside her, and she could see the need to hold her
close
shimmering in his eyes.

<Missytoo>

He held out a hand instead, and she took hold of it. It was as much comfort
as
she could take from him in public.

"Where would we find her?"

He solemnly nodded.  "I'll find her."

He patted her hand in his, then turned and quickly walked to the window at
the
end of the hall. Lois bit her lip to keep from crying out for him not to
leave
her. She felt as though it might be the last she ever saw of him.

She turned and went back to her silent vigil for her friends.

Lois felt a chill down her spine, as if a door had opened from somewhere
beyond the here and now. She turned and gasped as she spotted Baron Sunday
strolling toward her, his hand outstretched.

A door? Why would she think that? She ...

She suddenly shook herself awake, realizing she'd fallen asleep.

"Lois?"

She turned at the sound of Star's voice. He'd found her. Hopefully, it
wasn't
too late.

"Are we too late, Star?"

Star looked at the still figures in the other room. She closed her eyes and
breathed in deeply, seeming to reach somewhere far down inside.

"Maybe... maybe not. The only hope is to reach them from the other side."

Clark stepped up behind her. "Other side?"

"Yes. They don't know me as well, so I can't help them, but you could. Both
of
you."

He hugged Lois tighter to his side. "Both of us together?"

"Yes. The strength of your love will protect you, but only together."

<Mackteach>

Lois looked at Clark, uncertainty in her eyes and Clark returned her look
with
one of his own, a look that Lois drew strength from.  There wasn't any
uncertainty in his eyes, only confidence.  Confidence in his love for her
and
her love for him.

She smiled as he brought his head close to hers, their foreheads touching.

"Once more into the breach?" he said wryly.

"Being with you is stronger than me alone," she reminded him.

Clark smiled, remembering that soft campfire confession.  He kissed her
gently.  "I love you.

Lois looked Clark directly in the eyes.  "Ditto."  She winked and hugged him
to her, drawing more strength from his embrace.

They broke apart and turned to Star.  "How do we do this?"

Star studied them both for a moment before nodding and smiling.

"Now, you have to understand, I've never really had any dealings with voodoo
magic ... and this one is strong, very strong ... It's not like you can just
click your ruby-red slippers and chant--"

"Star."

Star opened her mouth